Nest API shutting down on August 31, 2019

barrymossel · May 8, 2019, 8:06am

I am so happy I only own an (expensive) thermostat, which I do not necessarily need in Home Assistant (but rather would have). Smoke alarms or a door bell I would most definitely want in HA.
I get why Google does this, but it’s really taking advantage here.

hijinx · May 8, 2019, 8:52am

The thermostat works well with HA, but the smoke alarms (protect) and doorbell (hello) are not that good in HA.
The protect will of course allow detection of CO/Smoke events - but by this time your device sirens will be sounding and nest app blowing up. Sadly though the wired version of the protect does not provide the other sensors (light, temp, humidity and presence) to the API (I can forgive this with the battery version for power management, but for wired version…)
AFAIK the hello does not even give event when button is pressed.

robvanuden · May 8, 2019, 10:03am

Domoticz has 2 Nest implementations. 1 with the official API (which will be retired), but also 1 with an unofficial API (I think it’s the app reverse engineered).
See https://github.com/domoticz/domoticz/blob/development/hardware/Nest.cpp

Also see here

github.com

gboudreau/nest-api/blob/master/nest.class.php

<?php

defined('DATE_FORMAT') OR define('DATE_FORMAT', 'Y-m-d');
defined('DATETIME_FORMAT') OR define('DATETIME_FORMAT', DATE_FORMAT . ' H:i:s');
defined('USE_STATUS_BUCKETS') OR define('USE_STATUS_BUCKETS', FALSE);
define('TARGET_TEMP_MODE_COOL', 'cool');
define('TARGET_TEMP_MODE_HEAT', 'heat');
define('TARGET_TEMP_MODE_RANGE', 'range');
define('TARGET_TEMP_MODE_OFF', 'off');
define('ECO_MODE_MANUAL', 'manual-eco');
define('ECO_MODE_SCHEDULE', 'schedule');
define('FAN_MODE_AUTO', 'auto');
define('FAN_MODE_ON', 'on');
define('FAN_MODE_EVERY_DAY_ON', 'on');
define('FAN_MODE_EVERY_DAY_OFF', 'auto');
define('FAN_MODE_MINUTES_PER_HOUR', 'duty-cycle');
define('FAN_MODE_MINUTES_PER_HOUR_15', FAN_MODE_MINUTES_PER_HOUR . ',900');
define('FAN_MODE_MINUTES_PER_HOUR_30', FAN_MODE_MINUTES_PER_HOUR . ',1800');
define('FAN_MODE_MINUTES_PER_HOUR_45', FAN_MODE_MINUTES_PER_HOUR . ',2700');
define('FAN_MODE_MINUTES_PER_HOUR_ALWAYS_ON', 'on,3600');

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Might that be a way to go?

stooshie45 · May 8, 2019, 10:09am

Yeah pretty pissed about this, gonna get me some refunds.

The doorbell is so good though, I’ll miss that the most.

jpreiditsch · May 8, 2019, 11:33am

They will have to release some sort of API there are many hardware manufacturers that have built stuff to work explicitly with nest. Things like those smart vents etc. I can see there being some lawsuits unless a new API is opened. Perhaps they will now just be through a google API rather than nest servers. But time will tell. (Since accounts are going to be migrated to google)
For my system as long as I have a way for nest to show my system as home or away I’m set but I do like seeing every5hing in one portal.

winter · May 8, 2019, 6:20pm

I was thinking of buying some additional nest products, look like a dodged a bullet there

And this is why I avoid cloud only connected products as much as possible ;(

mrtips · May 8, 2019, 9:16pm

ubiquiti unifi https://unifi-sdn.ui.com/

midow · May 8, 2019, 10:06pm

They will not allow “outside” access to the API. Just like Weather Underground, their new overlords want the $$$ so they’re shutting out all outside access. Another nice system ruined by greed.

msendelbach · May 9, 2019, 2:01am

Has anyone here started a conversation with nest about a refund? Also, any suggestions on other thermostats, wifi or zwave?

Syco54645 · May 9, 2019, 4:59pm

I really hope the backlash to Google is huge here. This is so wrong on so many levels. They are acting like Microsoft in the 90s. Other than Android I think I am done supporting the company. Unfortunately there is not a viable alternative at this time for phones.

winter · May 10, 2019, 6:57pm

I doubt Google is going to voluntarily provide any form of refund for any Nest devices. This would probably require legal action unfortunately.

krock · November 26, 2019, 1:47pm

I am trying to setup my Nest thermostat with this Unofficial API here.

How do I add this to my configuration.yaml?

Nath · November 26, 2019, 2:04pm

The “Unofficial Nest Learning Thermostat API” has nothing to do with HASS project.

You can use this:
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/i-made-a-crappy-nest-thermostat-integration-that-will-work-as-a-stopgap-until-alternatives-come-out

krock · November 26, 2019, 3:09pm

@Nath - Thanks. However, I am trying to setup humidity control with this.

It references using the unofficial nest API… so, I suspect there is a way to configure the nest sensors with this API. I might be mistaken…

Nath · November 26, 2019, 4:02pm

Oh i see. The OP of this made both things work together thanks to the PHP script. So there is the best place to ask.
Anyway to my understanding (HA novice, not a programmer ) you have to follow the path structure used by OP, copy the API file and script to one your folders in your HA and edit the “configuration.yaml” for the “changes”.