However, I found out that a specific Shelly device that I have measuring my PC energy usage (SH34 in the graph) was not yet given its proper upstream device: the Shelly that measures the energy usages for the whole of my office room (SH13).
So I corrected this, and that gave me the correct energy usage:
The values are correct, including the increased Untracked consumption: SH13 - SH34
But why are the floor and areas not shown any more?
Is this due to a lack of space in the graph?
If so, I think I would prefer to see the floors and areas separation but to leave out the upstream devices (the SH13 in this case).
Anyway, I think I will rearrange the power sockets in my office such that I donāt have to use this upstream devices set-up any more: one Shelly for the PC, and the other Shelly for the rest of the devices in the office. That will decrease the untracked consumption again as well.
Seconding this observation.
From one perspective, this makes sense - you canāt easily visualise both hierarchies at once, because theyāre conflicting.
On the other hand, I would prefer the area-based hierarchy view, if I could have it, but losing the ability to avoid double-counting energy (or having to exclude measurements to avoid the above) kinda puts a spanner in the works.
Would be good to be able to choose which view to use, where the upstream hierarchy is defined.
Iām running into this, too. I use a Shelly 3-phase sensor for the range/oven breaker, but one of these phases is the oven so I want to see it broken out. I can add the āphase aā sub-sensor as the oven, but to avoid doublecounting, I then have to select the 3-phase energy as the upstream. When I do this, I lose the area hierarchy.
I could add the phase b/c sub-sensors as two range sensors, but I donāt really care if I cooked on the left or the right side of the rangeā¦ Itās suboptimal to have this one upstream device just remove all the area hierarchies. Since both the phase a and the 3-phase energy sensors are configured to be in the kitchen, thereās no conflict so it could really display both.
A solution to this might be to create an extra template sensor that adds the two range sensors together (phase b plus c), and use that new sensor next to the oven sensor, so that you have an oven sensor and a range sensor?
Also now running into this and very sad it doesnāt work. I have a Vue 3 with CT breakers I would like to map to downstream devices, but doing so breaks my room/floor view in the Sankey graph, but it doesnāt HAVE to! What I donāt get is even if tried assigning the breakers to the same area as the device thatās downstream of it (e.g. the same floor/room), it refuses to workā¦ but there would be only 1 clean way to represent such a scenarioā¦ at least in that case it would make sense to have it work?
@thusassistint could you please explain how you managed to get Home Assistant to show that graph at all??? Even with the drawback you are mentioning that it apparently doesnāt always respect floors/areas, itās still a WHOLE lot nicer than the meager dashboards Iāve been able to cobble together.
Where are you able to enter that āupstream deviceā hierarchy? I do not see it in the settings for devices/entitiesā¦ Nor do I see, e.g., a Lovelace card type for the Sankey chart?
I am running into this issue as well. Building my own completely custom dashboard seems like a lot of effort. Especially since the upstream ādeviceā is the energy meter for the whole house.
It looks like you are not yet aware of the HA build-in Energy Dashboard?
The Sankey chart is part of it.
To set it up (assuming you are using version 2026.2 or newer of Home Assistant) go to: Settings ā Dashboards ā Energy and click on the pencil button in the right upper corner (Edit dashboard).
There you can set your energy boundary conditions and define individual devices with their upstream devices.
See also: Understanding Home Energy Management and Integrating individual device energy usage
You can use all Energy Dashboard cards on your own dashboards: Energy cards
For the Energy Sankey card see: Sankey energy graph
Thank you! Yes, I had not found that part of the built in energy dashboard. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
One question: the hierarchical relationship between devices (i.e., the āupstream deviceā field) seems to be a pretty significant attribute of a device (or, more precisely, an entity), yet I only see it being editable in the context of a specific dashboard. When I add devices in the energy dashboard, is the āupstream deviceā getting set globally for that entity somehow (and therefore being used if I create my own Energy Sankey graph in another dashboard ā or is it possible to access in calculations I do outside of that dashboard), or is it more accurately thought of as a configuration property of that specific graph?
Yes, the upstream device setting is defined for the HA Energy dashboard, but is global in the sin that it is used as well when additional Sankey Cards are placed on other dashboards.
As far as I know however, you can not access these upstream settings outside of the Energy dashboard cards.
The advantage of using the Sankey card on another dashboard is that you have extra configuration options: you can set the visibility of the floors and areas (true or false).
This is an example of a Sankey card with both set to true:
Personally I am not using the upstream devices setting because this still removes the floors and areas from the Sankey chart on the native Energy dashboard, but with the Sankey card on another dashboard and with the floors and areas set to true all levels are visible.
As a test I added one upstream device setting, and this is the result:
This however clearly isnĀ“t a very useful graph, with the entity names unreadable.
Personally I am not so much into fancy dashboard lay-outs, and I have no idea whether it is possible to get a larger graph on the dashboard. Can someone else with more knowledge on dashboard lay-outs comment on this please?
OK, I found one way to get a nicer HA Energy flow Sankey chart: add a new dashboard view with a Panel (single card) layout. That wil give a full page wide auto-scaling graph.
Thanks. I agree with your comments about graph readability. But more than that I would like to be able to access the values for the āuntrackedā consumption.
The actual thing that this energy sankey graph does that is really missing from Home Assistant is the ability to readily compute the amount of power or energy that is flowing through an upstream device but not seen by one of the downstream devices (and with the ability to total over different time horizons in the case of energy, including intelligently correcting for periodic resets of some of the downstream energy monitors). This is my āeverything elseā energy (or power) consumption and tells me wether I need to find a way to add more monitoring or rearrange the monitoring I have (e.g., switch CT monitors to different breakers).
In an ideal world this information would be a property of the devices and accessible like other entities of that device.
It would also be nice to be able to generate my own āhierarchy viewā of devices (similar to Unifiās ātopologyā view), but again, it seems like Home Assistant sequesters all of this information in configuration data for one dashboard rather than tied to the devices themselvesā¦.
As far as I know the only direct option at the moment to see the āeverything elseā energy consumption is the āUntracked consumptionā in the Sankey chart. This value is shown when hovered over the graph. I think that by default the graph is updated once per hour.
Of course you can create your own template sensors to calculate this value, but it would be very nice when the already existing value can be accessed directly as an entity.
Another option seems to be to access this data via SQL (see for instance this post), but I donĀ“t have any experience with that.
What I do with any graph in HA (to aid my failing eyesight) is add a tap action to the graph on the ānormalā page which links to an identical graph on a Panel dashboard. These full graph panels are setup as sub views so they donāt normally show on the top row of icons. There is a back button on a sub view which you can use to navigate back to the main display. Works nicely.
