New Home Assistant install and no Hass.io (Docker)

When I add hassio: to my configuration.yaml file I get an Invalid config error.
hassio

Adding discovery: doesn’t seem to do anything.

I thought you can’t run HASSIO in docker?

I am interested if you can now.

you can run hassio in docker in fact hassio ONLY runs in docker. I did a generic linux install of hassio with a host OS of debian and it works fine (with the hassio panel)

to the OP you installed Home Assistant in Docker which is not hassio. I don’t know if you can install hassio as a generic linux install on synology. You will have to check the hassio installation instructions.

This is what I installed.
Https://hub.docker.com/r/homeassistant/home-assistant/

Are there different instructions then these?

Installing Home Assistant in Docker is not the same as installing Hass.io/Docker. Yes there are different instructions.
https://www.home-assistant.io/hassio/installation/
Look down the bottom for installation instructions on a generic linux server

@bucket … as linked in post 2 of this topic…

If you installed home assistant on Docker, you you are not running hassio.

If you are not running hassio, you will not have hassio menu or add-ons

You cannot “install” hassio on top of home assistant, it is its own instance of home assistant.

If you are running a Synology, it is likely you CANNOT run hassio.

You can replicate everything that you can get in hassio with just normal docker containers. You don’t NEED hassio.

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“You can replicate everything that you can get in hassio with just normal docker containers. You don’t NEED hassio.”

I want to install deconz addon . Is that possible without hassio??
I have installed home assitance (manual installation method.)


I dont have hassio tab . So I cant edit configuration files and work with addons.
can you help me??

So install docker and run the deconz image?

You actually CAN edit configuration files, and you aren’t supposed to have a hassio tab, because you didn’t install hassio.

Why did you install it the manual way if you don’t know your way around linux?

thanks for reply.
I already installed hass.io and worked with deconz addon too.But I want to add new cluster through deconz UI . But I cant able to access Deconz file. [ I cant able to see the deconz file [tat folder path is missing] in hass.io so i cant able to add “custom.xml” to the deconz UI ]
I understood they run on different instance . So i thought of installing home assitance in manual way . But there is no hassio tab .
I found this
Whitelist_external_dirs: and the Fatal error while loading config: 'packages' problem

From above link I understood Installing hass.io and should edit the configuration.yaml file with /whitelist-external-dirs and reboot or restart hass.io to access the files
https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/basic/
I didnt try yet. I dunno whether it will work or not.

whitelisting has nothing to do with hassio…

“You actually CAN edit configuration files, and you aren’t supposed to have a hassio tab, because you didn’t install hassio.”

I dont have hassio tab. I cant install configurator addon and other addons . Is it still possible to edit the configuration.yaml file???

Deconz folder path is missing in hass.io

how to resolve this problem ?

YES!

How do you suppose we did it before “the configurator”? How do you think people use Home Assistant without Hassio??

Seriously…I don’t use hassio, but I have full access to my configurations. You have access to the OS, edit the files as you need. Or install Samba, or use ftp, or use sshfs, sftp, blah blah blah. There are a hundred ways to do this.

how is the folder path missing from hassio?

What exactly are you trying to do???

if you want to whitelist a directory, whitelist the directory!

how is the folder path missing from hassio?

I installed hass.io from below
Installation - Home Assistant
and den installed deconz addon and ssh addon.
I dont see the deCONZ folder path in hass.io

What exactly are you trying to do???

I want to add new cluster and intergrate with home assitance . By default you have general.xml in deCONZ folder . So I thought of adding my custom.xml to the file through ssh.
file:///C:/Users/akshaya/Downloads/deCONZ-BHB-en.pdf
From above , Chapter 10 says we can add custom cluster.
I cant able to access the file . They run on different instance .

if you want to whitelist a directory, whitelist the directory!

If I whitelist the directory , tat particular directory will be available in hass.ioso that i can access the file from deconz UI.

Seriously…I don’t use hassio, but I have full access to my configurations. You have access to the OS, edit the files as you need. Or install Samba, or use ftp, or use sshfs, sftp, blah blah blah. There are a hundred ways to do this.

I thought without addons we cant do anything.

OK?

soooooo…whitelist the directory??

Seriously?

I want you to think about this. How would anyone use home assistant if this were the case? Do you really think that many people would run home assistant at all if this were true?

This is some of the craziest stuff I have ever heard. Home Assistant has many options to install, hassio being only ONE of them. Everyone that is NOT running hassio still has access to their configuration files. Hassio isn’t magical…

soooooo…whitelist the directory??

will tat solve my problem??

I have no idea what your problem is. You started off this conversation by asking if it’s possible to run deconz without hassio, and you stated you installed home assistant in a python virtual environment.

You said you wanted to integrate deconz…so are you running deconz? What directory are you trying to whitelist? Where is this file you are trying to access?

What do you think whitelisting is going to do for you?

You said you wanted to integrate deconz…so are you running deconz? What directory are you trying to whitelist? Where is this file you are trying to access?

I installed deconz addon. I cant see 'usr\share\deCONZ\zcl\general.xml ’ path in hass.io

All I want is to add custom cluster in deconz UI as given in above image.

But you started this conversation by stating that you installed home assistant and not hassio…SMH

deconz is running in a DIFFERENT docker container, and you will not see files INSIDE that docker container unless they are mapped via bind mounts. You would have to talk to the developer of the add-on to find out what is mapped where.

OK.

Whitelisting a directory inside home assistant doesn’t accomplish this.