New Scenes Editor

Configuration
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I read about the new changes to scenes in 102. Most of my scenes pointed to scripts, with just the odd one or two entities in there, so no problem I’ll just add everything to scripts and trigger the scripts from the scene. I thought this was my best option as I use both Alexa and Siri in conjunction with HA and I wasn’t sure they would both ‘support scripts’, but they have always handled scenes fine.

However, my scenes no longer seem to trigger my scripts. Here is an example of a scene;

---
- name: bedtime
  entities:
    script.bedtime:
      state: on

Pretty simple. Yet it does not turn on the scene in HA, and thus neither from Alexa or Siri. I get no errors in my log. Nor does it register in the logbook as being turned on. When I turn the script on using services, it works fine.

Well ok I thought, if my ‘scenes’ are just going to point at a script I may as well use the new scenes editor (I prefer yaml in most areas) so I set this up, and added the scene.bedtime entity. Except adding the scene seems to be in the ‘off’ state. I can also see this is the case in the scenes.yaml file.

Now I think I can fix this by just completely abandoning scenes and working with scripts. I am guessing they will work with Alexa and Siri (once I remove all the old scenes of course as there will be naming conflicts). My post here is not so much asking for help, but wondering if I have completely got the wrong end of the stick with the new scenes or is there something amiss here? If 102 was the first version of HA I had installed, I would be completely scratching my head here. Has anyone else had this kind of experience?

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You can’t call scripts or other scenes from a scene now. Below is a good explanation for this behaviour that I found here

Scenes are based on the state of an entity. All entities that provide a meaningful state can be used in a scene.

Scripts and scenes and some other entities do not have a meaningful state, so they cannot be used in scenes. Scenes do not notice whether they are active or not, they are always scening . Scripts are on or off indeed, but this is only a momentary state and you don’t want the script to be on , you want it to have been executed in the past.

Long story short, neither scripts nor scenes will be usable in scenes in the near future.

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Ah ha! So I did completely have the wrong end of the stick! Thanks for clearing that up.