No entities found in new group config panel

I’ve got an empty groups.yaml, configuration panel added fine. I’ve cleared out any previous reference to groups (unless there’s some cache to clear?). Every time I go to the new group config panel I get a spinning circle which eventually ends and gives me “no entities found” as a result.

Where do I look for problems? Did I miss something?

I’ve got exactly the same issue. I’ve got my “group: !include groups.yaml setup” (with a still empty groups.yaml file) and I get exactly the same error message. My entities DO exist as all other features of HA are working fine. I have an SSL enabled config.

Looks like a documentation error, try with groups: instead of group: and it should work (at least, it does here)

I get an error when changing to groups: unable to load
Component groups.

I should have added, I did make the “group:” correction. Still no entities found, though all entities are accessible through the states panel and working normally.

groups: is incorrect. It should be group:

If you make that change you should lose that particular error.

Same here. Even in a new installation.

So I just got the group config panel working.

I previously had this in my configuration yaml:
group: !inlcude_dir_merge_named includes/groups

I commented this out before trying the new config: option and created the new empty group.yaml file, because that’s how I understood the instructions. In addition I commented out my above include and created a new group: !include groups.yaml

I would restart, get the config panel, and the new group panel would find nothing.

I reverted back to my old include directory and commented out the new one pointing to the empty file, but left config: in, restarted HA, and now I see my entities in the new group panel.

I’m losing my ability to follow instructions, or I’m being gas-lighted.

correction: entities and existing groups populate, but saving changes doesn’t seem to work. I think I’m giving up.

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It seems if you already had a groups.yaml file you do not need to have an empty file. In other words it is a documentation fail. Restoring my original groups.yaml made everything work.

Isn’t that just a permissions issue, that your config files are created and owned by the PI user and user that is running the Home Assistant service doesn’t have write access to these files?