Node red, Big timer to control the lights

Fredrik_Jacobsson · June 20, 2019, 12:00pm

Hi,
I would like to use the bigtimer to turn on my lights.
But I run in to a problem. I want to turn on the light at dusk and off at 22.00.
Have configured the bigtimer as attached figure shows.
But the problem is that the bigtimer gives “on” during the day.
The attached figure is taken at 13.00.
When it should be “off”.
What I’m I doing wrong?

flamingm0e · June 20, 2019, 12:41pm

Try using Schedex and see what time it shows. Maybe your Node Red has the incorrect timezone.

gerdesj · June 20, 2019, 1:22pm

Is this relevant? On and off switched · Issue #50 · biddster/node-red-contrib-schedex · GitHub

Works great in the winter, but here in the summer, dusk is actually later than 22:00, resulting in OFF at 22.00 and ON at dusk, leaving my lights on the whole night.

flamingm0e · June 20, 2019, 1:25pm

Seems odd to me, that they say it doesn’t work.

This has been working for me for 2 years.

MTStringer · June 20, 2019, 6:30pm

Here is mine. Works.

Fredrik_Jacobsson · June 24, 2019, 6:36am

I try to find the Schedex in my Node-red flow but I can not found it.
I even try to add palette node-red-contrib-schedex but can not found that either.
How can I get Schedex in my flow?

BR,
Fredrik

Fredrik_Jacobsson · June 24, 2019, 7:54am

Okay I found Schedex.
I will try to add it to my flow and se the time

Three · June 24, 2019, 8:18am

Here is code of one of my bigtimers which has been working for some time now. Import it and compare against yours. Obviously dont forget to change the long/lat etc.

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Fredrik_Jacobsson · June 24, 2019, 8:48am

Hi,
It still give me the wrong output.
Is there a easy way to check to current time in node-red?
Start to think that the system has a incorrect time.

//Fredrik

Three · June 24, 2019, 9:09am

Yer on the right panel, click on debug events have date and time on them

Three · June 24, 2019, 9:11am

Date and time is set in configuration.yaml file at the top eg timezone.

Fredrik_Jacobsson · June 24, 2019, 10:24am

Hi Three,
I have imported your BigTimer and changed the long/lat for it.
But it also give me the same bad result

Can you test my BigTimer in your application?

//Fredrik

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Three · June 24, 2019, 12:27pm

Fredrik_Jacobsson:

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I just imported and had a look.

Untick repeat output I pretty sure this cause bigtimer to keep repeating output which most likely your issue as you only want it to run once per schedule, I think I made same mistake when I first started using bigtimer and couldn’t work out why it was turning on randomly.
You shouldn’t need to fill out the topic boxes. Just pass On and Off to the output through the ON Msg and OFF Msg boxes which you can then connect it to a Switch node which can receive the On or Off message from Bigtimer and then pass through the On Off to either output of the right side of the switch which you can then connect to your Light entity node.

Here is full flow of one of my lights

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Fredrik_Jacobsson · June 24, 2019, 12:47pm

Tanks all lot for all the help.
I tried to untick the repeat output. But it did not give any diffenent.
Still the same, see figure. Also I imported your Bigtimer and it gives the same result as my.

I have checkt the coordinates and it should be correct what else can be wrong?

//Fredrik

Three · June 24, 2019, 1:08pm

Make sure Deploy changes.
Refresh your browser and make sure changes are deployed eg repeat is unticked.
Make sure the date and time match in the debug window. If you want get a message in the debug window to check the timestamp easiest way is to just move a node slightly and then you can click on the deploy button and watch the debug window as messages scroll down and check the time stamps.
If all of the above is fine.
Try rebooting the hass.io operating system, it will take 5 minutes or so for everything to reboot and nodered to load again. Once up test again.

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How are you testing seeing as though dusk is specific second of the day. Are you changing the On time to something else? Can you select all the nodes that belong to your flow (hold control on keyboard to multi select and then copy and paste them in here so I can see your whole flow for the light circuit.
Also check you system time and timezone in the developer tools after you reboot the host system.

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Fredrik_Jacobsson · June 24, 2019, 2:07pm

Hi Three,
I have checked all your questions and everthing seems to be correct.

i have made deploy
repeat is unticked
time is correct in debug window
reboot Hassio
Pasted my flow
System time is correct

Here is my hole flow.

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Three · June 25, 2019, 3:55am

I have imported your flow into my node red and dealing with Wall Plug Timer 2 circuit (bottom area).

I had to delete the push bullet node as it wasn’t installed in my repository and causing flow not to run.
(bigtimer) I updated the long/latitude fields to my location.
(bigtimer) I removed cleared the data out of the Topic Msg as it was not needed.
(bigtimer) I changed the On Time from Dusk to the closest next 15mins of current time eg its 11:22am I selected 11:30am.
I know you have the debug node attached to the output of bigtimer but I copy and pasted your wall plug 7 on? entity node and attached it to bigtimer Wall Plug Timer 2 output.
(wall plug 7 entity node) I updated the server to mine.
(wall plug 7 entity node) I changed the entity ID to one of my lights.
Clicked Deploy and waited for 11:30am.

Test circuit from your import with mods above 2 minutes before on time.

At 11:30am the light turned on as I had selected it to do.

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Shortly after light turned itself off which I had not programmed it to do in the bottom set of nodes. However the top set of nodes still have Repeat activated and mostly likely behind turning off my lights.
I removed the other node sets and cleaned up the top node set due to duplication of what they were doing.
Was there a reason what you had current state node and then call service node after the switch node, I removed the state node as the switch was managing the on and off payload message.
I changed On time to 11:45am Deployed and waited.

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At 11:45am the light come on and stayed on this time.

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For pushbullet in my flows I just use a call service node up to you which way you go, but here is part of one of my pushbullet notifications if you want to have a look at my method.
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Fredrik_Jacobsson · June 25, 2019, 6:43am

Hi,
I changed my flow after your changes and try.

I sett “Wall Plug Timer” according to this:

Both BigTimer should turn on at 8:30 and off at 8:45.
Wall Plug Timer2 turned on at 8:30 but not Wall Plug Timer.
Is it not possible to have two times in the BigTimer?
Why are the off node connected to the on output of the switch node and not the off output?

Three · June 25, 2019, 6:54am

Yes you can have as many bigtimer nodes in a flow as you want.

Sorry my fault delete the connection from the On output on the switch and drag a connection between the Switch Off output and the Wall plug Off call service node. This probably reason why Wall Plug timer 2 did not come on and the other one only come on probably due to the way the code was executed and overlapped. So fix my connection error and you should be good.

Fredrik_Jacobsson · June 25, 2019, 7:24am

Have now changed the connections and retried, it works fine
So the problem is dusk!
If I use dusk for turn on the BigTimer don’t work correctly.
Have you try to use dusk?