Nodon Octan Remote (How to)

[bonterra]

Nice summary @ibennani!

To add to your instructions, most (if not all) Nodon remotes support both single, double and long click this way. The ID:s are 10 (single), 12 (long) and 13 (double). ID 11 is ‘button released’ so it is activated every time a button has been pressed and released. This way you can turn your lights on with a single click, set another color and/or brightness with a double click and turn them off with a long click.

The same goes for the other buttons: 20/22/23, 30/32/33 and 40/42/43 respectively.

Edit: the reason you have to wait for your parameter changes to take effect is that the remotes are not constantly online, they only wake up at specific intervals (such as every 30 min) to let the controller know that they’re still alive and to receive parameter updates. You can force an update by pressing any button on the remote to send a command, when the controller receives that command it will automatically issue the parameter update too.

[corvy]

Hello all, nice input, thanks!

I have just set up the nodon soft remote, but it is crazy slow. It takes 2-3 seconds, and sometimes it just does not work. My config is preferred to use button 1 to switch lights off, button 3 to switch lights on.

The really hard pard part is the next step with button 2 (+) do increase light (dim up) and button 4 (-) long press to dim lights down. With the sluggish respons I am not at all sure this will ever work… Any tips or thoughts? Does it have to be this slow?

My config is as follows (for now only on/off):

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##  Bryter på Toalett Overetasjen  ##
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- alias: Bryter Toalett Overetasjen På
  trigger:
    platform: event
    event_type: zwave.scene_activated
    event_data:
      entity_id: zwave.bryter_toalett_overetasje
      scene_id: 10
  action:
    - service: light.turn_on
      entity_id: light.dimmer_toalett_overetasje_level

- alias: Bryter Toalett Overetasjen av
  trigger:
    platform: event
    event_type: zwave.scene_activated
    event_data:
      entity_id: zwave.bryter_toalett_overetasje
      scene_id: 30
  action:
    - service: light.turn_off
      entity_id: light.dimmer_toalett_overetasje_level

[ibennani (Ilias Bennani)]

@corvy, I am also about to use that switch as a dimmer, but due to lack of time I have not been able to dig into this yet.

As soon as I do, I will post my findings in this thread.

Sorry for not being able to help you right now.

[Tinkerer (aka DubhAd on GitHub)]

So this cookbook entry was written for that, but if you look at my repository, at the bedhead- automations you’ll see ones that I use with my Nodon remote for exactly that.

[corvy]

Thanks guys!

That cookbook link is grand. I think I will have a play with that one! Thanks

What I will do with the delay/sluggishness is still not solved. Maybe it will be better when fixed in the same spot? Not sure how z-wave works and how it selects it’s relay. The dimmer is fairly close so range should not be an issue, and the dimmer is a z-wave repeater.

When my config is completed I will post it (if it will ever work!)

[Tinkerer (aka DubhAd on GitHub)]

The way Z-Wave works you can’t wander around the house with any Z-Wave device, it needs to stay relatively near where you include it, or you have to run a Heal after you move it to another room.

Mine controls a WiFi connected light, and is at the far end of my house from the controller, so at best there’s normally 3 hops to the controller, sometimes 4. Despite this control is fairly responsive, comfortably less than a second from pushing the button on the controller and an action happening - dimming takes a fraction longer, just because the remote doesn’t send the button held Scene immediately.

If you’re seeing longer, I’d look at both the health of your Z-Wave mesh (see this thread for how to generate a map), and the load on your Home Assistant server (which you can do with the top command, or tools like Netdata).

[corvy]

@Tinkerer Thanks! You are a lifesaver! I included the device in the basement close to the controller and I am trying to use it on the second floor. This will for sure be a problem!

[corvy]

I am happy to report that the switch works much better now. I ended up removing my switch and readding it to the network as the healing did not help alot. After re-adding it however (sitting on the toilet, in the room it is destined to end up!) it worked alot better.

After this I tried the cookbook entry on dimming up and down but to be honest this was not a perfect solution. The dimming is much too hard to control and not very user friendly. I ended up adding the following automations to use steps instead. One click on + is 32 steps brighter, double click on + is 62 steps brighter. This is very easy and works fine even with a bit of lag. Wife approved

- alias: Bryter Toalett Overetasjen På
  trigger:
    platform: event
    event_type: zwave.scene_activated
    event_data:
      entity_id: zwave.bryter_toalett_overetasje
      scene_id: 10
  action:
    - service: light.turn_on
      entity_id: light.dimmer_toalett_overetasje_level

- alias: Bryter Toalett Overetasjen av
  trigger:
    platform: event
    event_type: zwave.scene_activated
    event_data:
      entity_id: zwave.bryter_toalett_overetasje
      scene_id: 30
  action:
    - service: light.turn_off
      entity_id: light.dimmer_toalett_overetasje_level

- alias: Lysere på Toalettet +10%
  trigger:
    - platform: event
      event_type: zwave.scene_activated
      event_data:
        entity_id: zwave.bryter_toalett_overetasje
        scene_id: 20
  action:
    - service: light.turn_on
      entity_id: light.dimmer_toalett_overetasje_level
      data_template:
        brightness: '{{ states.light.dimmer_toalett_overetasje_level.attributes.brightness|int + 31 }}'
- alias: Lysere på Toalettet +20%
  trigger:
    - platform: event
      event_type: zwave.scene_activated
      event_data:
        entity_id: zwave.bryter_toalett_overetasje
        scene_id: 23
  action:
    - service: light.turn_on
      entity_id: light.dimmer_toalett_overetasje_level
      data_template:
        brightness: '{{ states.light.dimmer_toalett_overetasje_level.attributes.brightness|int + 62 }}'
- alias: Mørkere på Toalettet -10%
  trigger:
    - platform: event
      event_type: zwave.scene_activated
      event_data:
        entity_id: zwave.bryter_toalett_overetasje
        scene_id: 40
  action:
    - service: light.turn_on
      entity_id: light.dimmer_toalett_overetasje_level
      data_template:
        brightness: '{{ states.light.dimmer_toalett_overetasje_level.attributes.brightness|int - 31 }}'
- alias: Mørkere på Toalettet -20%
  trigger:
    - platform: event
      event_type: zwave.scene_activated
      event_data:
        entity_id: zwave.bryter_toalett_overetasje
        scene_id: 43
  action:
    - service: light.turn_on
      entity_id: light.dimmer_toalett_overetasje_level
      data_template:
        brightness: '{{ states.light.dimmer_toalett_overetasje_level.attributes.brightness|int - 62 }}'

Next step would be to define a minumum and maximum setting that + and - would stop at. I think that about 32 is basically minimum for practical reasons, and somewhere around 200 is the maximum. Anything above that does not show visible change. At least this simple setup works rock solid for now.

[cheeto.blue]

Awesome!! That worked perfectly!! Thanks for the info

[bolle (Martin)]

Can someone tell me what I have done wrong? My remote want respond to det switch.

[Tinkerer (aka DubhAd on GitHub)]

Please don’t post your code as images, post your code as text - as explained here.

[fernmac (FM)]

I have a easier solution with node-red if anyone is interested.

[r.paulsson (Rickard Paulsson)]

Yes please @fernmac , can you share your solution ???

[fernmac (FM)]

well, you just have to install mios package and follow this:

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[gcoupe (Geoff Coupe)]

I’m using the QT OpenZWave beta + Mosquitto add-ons, but they don’t seem to create entities that will work in these automations. For the entities I get:

sensor.crc_3_6_0x_soft_remote_basic
sensor.crc_3_6_0x_soft_remote_basic_duration
sensor.crc_3_6_0x_soft_remote_basic_target
sensor.crc_3_6_0x_soft_remote_battery_level

I realise that the battery level sensor is not relevant for this automation, but none of the others will work either. I’m seeing the scene_id in the OpenZWave log (10, 20, 30, 40 for the buttons 1, 2, 3, 4 respectively), but it doesn’t seem to be associated with any of the known entities.

Does anyone have any idea on what I’m doing wrong? Thanks.

[macfly92 (Mac_Fly)]

You need to switch your node configuration from Central Scene to Scene Activation :

@ibennani

Now you have to change the mode to Scene Activation (from Central Scene). Select your node from the list. In my case I chose “my_switch (Node:14 Complete)”. Near the bottom of this page, look for the heading “Node config options”. Here, click on the “Config value” and select “3: Scene mode”. Now a new entry appears just below. This new entry’s name is “Config value” and it’s initial value is “Central scene”. Change this to “Scene activation”.

[gcoupe (Geoff Coupe)]

I already did change to Scene Activation - no difference.

[macfly92 (Mac_Fly)]

When you do this, It do not create any additional entities but trigger ozw.scene_activated events.

[gcoupe (Geoff Coupe)]

OK, thanks, I’ll keep trying this. I’m new to HA (been using Domoticz for years), and still finding (groping) my way around…

I am seeing the scene_id events in the ozw log, but not clear how to connect these up with scenes in HA…

[macfly92 (Mac_Fly)]

I’m using NodeRed to manage my automation but if you use HA automation it must look something like this (based from exemple seen before) :

- alias: Bryter Toalett Overetasjen På
  trigger:
    platform: event
    event_type: ozw.scene_activated
    event_data:
      entity_id: zwave.bryter_toalett_overetasje
      scene_id: 10
  action:
    - service: light.turn_on
      entity_id: light.dimmer_toalett_overetasje_level