Noob question - blinds undiscoverable

Sorry for the newbie question, have tried researching but not found the answer.

I have a HA Green with a Connect ZBT-1 and a couple of new Blinds (AM-25) which I’m told has Zigbee (Tuya). I have tried putting into discovery mode and finding the device but nothing gets found.

The HA and blinds are 1m apart.

I appreciate a quirk might be required but my question is, is a quirk required for discovery the device in the first place? Or should it be discovered regardless and the quirk is required for control.

Thanks.

According to AM25 WiFi Smart Blinds Motor for 1.5"(38mm)/ 1.75"(43mm) Shade tube fo – RollerHouses, those are wifi, not zigbee, so you’ll need the Tuya app & integration to interact with them in HA.

Do you have a source telling you it’s zigbee?

There are different models with different connectivity. Vendor says they are Zigbee. The actual model is this AM25-ES-EZ Electric Window Shades Motor for 1.5"(38mm)/1.75"(43mm) Sha – RollerHouses

I just can’t get HA to detect them at all, it’s really weird. I assumed it would get detected and then still need a quirk to work?