Not home and not not_home

Configuration
1

Hi, so I have an automation that kicks at times if you’re not home but I can’t use ‘not_home’ because of configured zones (I think). In Condition, for ‘state’, can I have state: not home or state: !home instead of state: not_home to catch all cases where presences is not ‘home’?

Thanks

2

could you post your automation here?

use condition: template instead of state

3

Here’s one example of such situation:

Basically kids have a webhook to start the heating in advance in their room but if they’re not home 30 minutes after they turned the heat on, it dials it back to 15C.

- id: '1578349139030'
  alias: Timer expiré - Chauffage Catherine
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - event_data:
      entity_id: timer.chauffage_catherine
    event_type: timer.finished
    platform: event
  condition:
  - condition: state
    entity_id: person.catherine
    state: not_home
  action:
  - data:
      temperature: 15
    entity_id: climate.neviweb130_climate_catherine
    service: climate.set_temperature
  - data:
      temperature: 15
    entity_id: climate.neviweb130_climate_cath_toilette
    service: climate.set_temperature
4

So should it become?

- id: '1578349139030'
  alias: Timer expiré - Chauffage Catherine
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - event_data:
      entity_id: timer.chauffage_catherine
    event_type: timer.finished
    platform: event
  condition:
  - condition: template
    value_template: "{{ not is_state('person.catherine', 'home') }}"
  action:
  - data:
      temperature: 15
    entity_id: climate.neviweb130_climate_catherine
    service: climate.set_temperature
  - data:
      temperature: 15
    entity_id: climate.neviweb130_climate_cath_toilette
    service: climate.set_temperature
5

Yep. Every other trigger or condition can ultimately be expressed as a template…they’re very flexible.

6

If you prefer state conditions, you can create a template binary sensor with the same value_template and test its state in condition (should be on).

7

Ok, thank you both.

8

Can’t make it work :frowning: This:

binary_sensor:
  - platform: template
    sensors:
      sylvain_away:
        value_template: "{{ not is_state(‘person.sylvain’, ‘home’) }}"

Gives me that when I run check config:

Configuration invalid

Invalid config for [binary_sensor.template]: invalid template (TemplateSyntaxError: unexpected char ‘‘’ at 16) for dictionary value @ data[‘sensors’][‘sylvain_away’][‘value_template’]. Got ‘{{ not is_state(‘person.sylvain’, ‘home’) }}’. (See ?, line ?).

person.sylvain do exists. Don’t know what I’m doing wrong, help?

Thanks

9

replace these fancy single quotes with proper ones. Or (better) copy my code by clicking on Copy to clipboard sign (top-right corner of code frame)

10

Thanks! That was quick :slight_smile: