Official Z-way integration request

Has anyone got news?

No, and to be honest, I dont care anymore… using OZW addon now and works well so far

I saw zway 3.1 is out. Any new about The integration?

Yeah I want to know this too. With Z-Way I just pair my devices and don’t have to troubleshoot them for 2 weeks straight before giving up. Even Aeotec Siren 6 works with z-way. It’s just that it’s not as customizable as HA.

Then upvote for it at the top of the conversation. Let’s hope we can get this one day, it would be really cool.

Yeah OZW looks nice but I’m concerned about the problems HA has as talked about in a recent episode of the Home Assistant Podcast with HA’s MQTT broker getting overwhelmed by frequent data point updates from Z-Wave devices (such as voltage, current, speed, etc) whose detail you may actually want…it ends up making HA unresponsive overall for blocks of time.
This is unfortunate and I hope there’s a practical solution.
But it seems that according to the devs Z-Wave via mqtt is not the intended ultimate solution and that the new OZW daemon is a step on path to the ultimate best solution for Z-Wave: Z/ip

has anyone tested z-way integration via openluup?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but this way we should be able to use existing Vera native integration…

Can you elaborate?

I think @rafale77 succeded in migrating Vera to Z-Way (backing up and restoring to UZB dongle) and then configuring openluup with z-way.
Openluup should expose the same API as Vera, thus you should be able to use Vera HA integration with openluup.
Unfortunately I couldn’t find a docker implementation of openluup to test and I do not have yet a valid z-way license (still to buy, when it will be useful for me)…

theoretically this should work… ask @rafale77

Not just me but a number of us in the other forum have succesfully transferred our vera z-wave network to z-way and our vera automations and plugins to openLuup, then connected openluup to z-way through the z-way bridge and de-facto obsoleted the vera without losing anything.

Hi all, do you know if this is still working? https://github.com/jschlyter/hass-zway

Hi rafale, im going to try to replace my vera secure with a rpi 4 and razberry v2 z-wave controller, what’s the best way to transfer it if i like to run open luup? (i dont have the usb stick and i have no clue on how open luup work or how to install it, but i need to replace my vera since to many of my new zwave devices is not supported. kan you give me some assistance maby a step by step? im guessing open luup still is the best way if im using homeassistant on a separate hub? //Regards

Hi @seiken,

With a razberry, and no uzb, you will have to rebuild your zwave network from scratch unfortunately. The only we had to transfer the network data from the vera is to plugin a uzb stick in the vera and play a trick on the vera to restore its data on the uzb dongle instead of its internal zwave chip.

As for your second question, if you are going to go with z-way, you can either wait for homeassistant integration or if you are very invested in the vera with scenes and plugins, openLuup is the way to go.

That is a dead end I think… contacted the developers long time ago and opened a feature request here onthoud forum and on theirs… dead… my horse to bet on is currently jsopenzwave although qtopenzwave also works “well”.

Hi thank för the reply, I never want to have zwave on the same hub as homeassistant again, had way to mutch problems and I like that I can restart ha without affecting zwave network. Ok il get a USB. can I transfer from that USB to razberry if I plugg the USB in to rpi? You talked about paring razberry with vera and doing this way, is that not possible any more?//regards

Technically you can but I would not recommend it. You can run multiple controllers on the same network actually, I had z-way and vera run together to observe and compare behaviors for quite some time, the vera primary and the uzb as secondary. You can also run a controller shift which will move the primary role to a secondary controller. The reason why I don’t recommend this is because I have a number of zwave devices which did not take this well. They had their Lifeline association hardcoded to be device node 0 and would refuse to change. I think you could potentially change it using z-way which has the right zwave commands to do things like these but I forgot if I tried it this way.

The Lifeline association is the most elementary association every zwave device uses to report their status back to the master controller.
I would also recommend the uzb over the razberry: the uzb has a better antenna, better range, and gives you the possibility to move to other devices in the future.

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Hi @rafale77 - I’m also working towards replacing 2 Vera+ hubs connected to Home Assistant. The Vera’s are only providing Z-Wave connections and a serial/ftdi connection to a security system. All automation logic is handled by HA and I have no need for OpenLuup.

I just installed a RaZberry with Z-Way to try out to see if I can get it to work with the new HA Z-Wave-JS server running on a RasPi3 separately from HA. But it’s looking like I was premature in expecting compatibility. Oh well, only out $21 (yes, it’s that cheap now).

I’m aware of the great work you have done with the “Nuke-Vera” process. Is there a possibility that the Z-Wave-JS Server could run on this nuked Vera and support its Z-Wave?

I have been watching zwave-JS with great interest and it looks like an already pretty advanced and promising project. I would think that the nuked vera, providing a generic zwave serial API should work like any USB stick. I have not tested it myself since I have now completely replaced it with a uzb and z-way having been rock solid, I am not especially motivated to test either. Is there not a port parameter in Z-waveJS?

The Z-Wave-JS server has a “device” option…

Option device

The device address of your Z-Wave controller.

In most cases this looks like one of the following:

  • "/dev/serial/by-id/usb-0658_0200-if00"
  • "/dev/ttyUSB0"
  • "/dev/ttyAMA0"
  • "/dev/ttyACM0"

What would be the /dev syntax for port 333 on the rafale-enanced Vera?

Also, referring back to the OP for Z-Way support - having Zwave-JS server running on a RaZberry/Pi with ZWay support seems like it would be feasible for a nice little external Z-Wave hub for HA.