Hello, I am new to this but have been playing around with HA for a week or 2. I have mosquitto and HA on a RPi and I am using Owntracks and Nmap on mine and my wife’s android phones. On mine everything works as it should Owntracks tracks when phone is in my pocket etc. My wifes needs to be manually pushed to update, hence why I added Nmap as well - perfect… but no…
yesterday we were both out and came home and Owntracks still thought she was away, Nmap tried to update her as home so it kept flip flopping between home and not home. Own tracks won and HA thought she was away. Is there any way if one of them says she is home it overrides the other one please??
I haven’t figured out how to make those two services work reliably. IMO its crap, simply not working, absolutely unreliable. Is the only thing that I don’t like of HA (presence detection). I tried GPSlogger, owntracks, nmap, netgear … nada
If you put both devices in a group, the group will be ‘home’ if one of the items in the group is home. You use the status of the group for your automations.
thanks for the replies!
I thought once the device was discovered by 2 trackers, you could pick say owntracks and just add the mac address to that and remove the other? or was I reading something wrong before?
so if I have owntracks and Nmap trackers like this
9cd917222a6a:
hide_if_away: false
mac: 00000000000000000
name: Mark
picture:
track: true
vendor: Motorola Mobility LLC, a Lenovo Company
mark_mark:
hide_if_away: false
mac:
name: Mark
picture:
track: true
vendor:
they both show up in the user panel as either home/away/etc and I have track :true for both as I want to track via both methods. I think I am getting my knickers in a twist
If you put the two devices in a group, the group state will be home if either of the devices report as home. Which is what I thought you wanted. If you wanted something else, please explain.
Do as @gpbenton says and put them in a group. Then in your customize section, make device_tracker.9cd917222a6a and device_tracker.mark_mark hidden so they don’t show up in the default view. Or, replace the default view with your own and only put the things you want to show up.
Thanks for the replies both of you. If I do this, how would I get our devices to show up like the snip? as at the moment I don’t group our 2 trackers (phones) so they stay at the top. if I do as you suggest i.e. if I hide both trackers (nmap/owntracks) for each of our phones nothing would show as I have no idea who I would make the group.mark, group.helen to be shown at the top.
If you really want the single tracker to show up at the top like that without being in a group on the page, I think you’d have to basically create a “virtual” tracker and manage it yourself.
Check out this dicuscussion for one example. That uses an input_boolean and automation, but you could probably also use a template binary sensor with the class set to “occupancy” to achieve similar results, depending on the behavior you want.
For the gravatar image, I think you’ll have to customize the virtual sensor and add the entity_picture. You can get the URL from the attributes of your existing tracker.
Honestly though, it may be worthwhile to figure out why it was flip flopping to begin with. According to the docs, if you combine Owntracks with nmap in the way you did, it should use the state of whichever one reported last. In order for it to flip flop, either one of them was going back and forth or they were both continuously updating with one reporting “home” and the other “not_home”. Either way sounds like an issue with the tracking of one of the components.