The Philips Hue Secure Cameras, including the new Floodlight Camera, use both WiFi and Zigbee. Has anyone tried to use them without a Philips Hue Bridge?
I have now obtained a Floodlight Camera.
My first impressions are that it is two separate devices: floodlight and camera in a single unit.
The floodlight was recognised by ZHA and was added as a device. It has two endpoint-names: EXTENDED_COLOR_LIGHT and PROXY_BASIC. There is one manufacturer_specific cluster (0xfc01). Probably similar to a stand-alone floodlight.
The camera wasn’t seen by ZHA. It is configured using the Hue app and Bluetooth LE (maybe using Zigbee Direct?). OTA updates use Wi-Fi. It is probably a Wired Secure Camera with its power supplied from the floodlight base.
Early days, but it looks like some level of camera operation is possible without a Philips Hue Bridge.
Don’t yet know if it will be possible to configure the camera into an existing Zigbee network.
Are there any handy Zigbee Direct tools I could try? Ideally, running on Linux?
Unfortunately, it looks like the Philips Hue Secure Floodlight Camrea may not be a Zigbee Direct device.
The BLE advertisements emitted during setup do not conform to the BLE Connectable Advertisement example in Appendix A of Zigbee Direct Specification, Version 1.0. In particular, instead of the 16-bit UUID of the Zigbee Direct Commissioning Service (0xFFF7) it has the 16-bit UUID of Signify Netherlands B.V. (formerly Philips Lighting B.V.) (0xFE0F).
A shame. I was quite looking forward to dabbling with the Zigbee Direct crypto stuff.
Well, it’s Philips Hue after all which just not should be bought in 2024 and beyond for their anti consumer moves.
Anyways for less then 1/10 of the price I recently bought a quite similar device. Difference is only that my camera only includes white light. On the other hand it does have not one but actually two cameras, the second one with PT(no Z). My device comes without zigbee or bluetooth (both are pita and waste of time imho) but instead with wifi and ethernet. It supports onvif as well as rtsp and therefore allows 100% local control in HA!
Why pay more, get less and be trapped in a walled garden?
I have been reading the E2E Encryption Whitepaper. I’m not yet sure if it is a walled garden or a public park with gates provided by published algorithms (PBKDF2, HKDF, P-256, DTLS, WebRTC). Unless all the parameters are available then the gates are effectively locked.
It’s a more interesting device than I initially appreciated. There appears to have been a lot of thought about how to secure the camera. I intend to dig a little deeper and see how feasible it is to add support to HA.
I have created a GitHub repository, Hue-Secure-Camera, to collate information about Philips Hue Secure Cameras. Hopefully, it will include some code later.
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Are you willing to share the brand/model of the cams that you found?
what about the siren feature? can it be controlled by HA?