Presence detection automation wrong

Configuration
1

Hi
I need your help, I want that if no presence is detected in both sensors the auto. will work, but it doesn’t what am I doing wrong:

alias: First floor no presence
description: turns off everything
trigger:
  - type: no_motion
    platform: device
    device_id: 4c06412581555ce62259f274706a3922
    entity_id: binary_sensor.presence_35
    domain: binary_sensor
    for:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 30
      seconds: 10
  - type: no_motion
    platform: device
    device_id: b0cb353a1e97450b69344bbfc49e9144
    entity_id: binary_sensor.presence_36
    domain: binary_sensor
    for:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 30
      seconds: 0
condition:
  - condition: state
    entity_id: input_boolean.shabes_mode
    state: "off"
  - condition: and
    conditions:
      - condition: state
        entity_id: input_boolean.away_mode
        state: "off"
action:
  - service: light.turn_off
    data: {}
    target:
      entity_id:
        - light.living_room
        - light.kitchen
  - device_id: e01642003e63a54797b6658a43efaa4d
    domain: cover
    entity_id: cover.big_blinds
    type: set_position
    position: 0
mode: single
2

So what I read is that if either trigger one or trigger two applies it will act
First of all the conditions are wrong or odd… below the ‘and’ I would expect at least more than one condition
… I did not look at the action … what does your ‘trace’ say?

example ‘and’

condition: and
conditions:
  - condition: state
    entity_id: device_tracker.abc
    state: home
  - condition: state
    entity_id: device_tracker.xyz
    state: away
3

You need to mirror the triggers in your condition section, so that only the last trigger to occur will execute the actions. As @vingerha commented, your and condition was not set up correctly, however it isn’t necessary in this configuration.

alias: First floor no presence
description: turns off everything
trigger:
  - type: no_motion
    platform: device
    device_id: 4c06412581555ce62259f274706a3922
    entity_id: binary_sensor.presence_35
    domain: binary_sensor
    for:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 30
      seconds: 10
  - type: no_motion
    platform: device
    device_id: b0cb353a1e97450b69344bbfc49e9144
    entity_id: binary_sensor.presence_36
    domain: binary_sensor
    for:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 30
      seconds: 0
condition:
  - condition: state 
    entity_id: 
      - binary_sensor.presence_35
      - binary_sensor.presence_36
    state: "off"
    for: "00:30:00"
  - condition: state
    entity_id: 
      - input_boolean.shabes_mode
      - input_boolean.away_mode
    state: "off"
action:
  - service: light.turn_off
    data: {}
    target:
      entity_id:
        - light.living_room
        - light.kitchen
  - device_id: e01642003e63a54797b6658a43efaa4d
    domain: cover
    entity_id: cover.big_blinds
    type: set_position
    position: 0
mode: single
4

thanks and on the condition part… this setup is new to me, is this also an ‘and’ by nature?

5

The default behavior is and, but that can be modified using the match variable as shown in the State Condition docs

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6

thank you (sorry for the late response)
still doesn’t work, what am I doing wrong:

alias: First floor no presence
description: turns off everything
trigger:
  - type: no_motion
    platform: device
    device_id: 4c06412581555ce62259f274706a3922
    entity_id: binary_sensor.presence_35
    domain: binary_sensor
    for:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 3
      seconds: 10
  - type: no_motion
    platform: device
    device_id: b0cb353a1e97450b69344bbfc49e9144
    entity_id: binary_sensor.presence_36
    domain: binary_sensor
    for:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 3
      seconds: 0
condition:
  - condition: state
    entity_id:
      - binary_sensor.presence_35
      - binary_sensor.presence_36
    state: "off"
    for: "00:03:00"
  - condition: state
    entity_id:
      - input_boolean.shabes_mode
      - input_boolean.away_mode
    state: "off"
action:
  - service: light.turn_off
    data: {}
    target:
      entity_id:
        - light.living_room
        - light.kitchen
  - device_id: e01642003e63a54797b6658a43efaa4d
    domain: cover
    entity_id: cover.big_blinds
    type: set_position
    position: 0
mode: single

is there any difference i’m missing ? (changed it to 3 min. so it will be easier to check if it works…)

7

You can’t use for in a state condition, only in a trigger (docs).

I think you’ll need a pair of template conditions as well to check the times. Something like this (with the trigger section cleaned up to remove all the device cruft, although yours is functionally fine):

trigger:
  - platform: state
    entity_id:
      - binary_sensor.presence_35
      - binary_sensor.presence_36
    to: "off"
    for: "00:03:00"
condition:
  - condition: state
    entity_id:
      - binary_sensor.presence_35
      - binary_sensor.presence_36
    state: "off"
  - "{{ (now()|as_timestamp - states['binary_sensor.presence_35'].last_changed|as_timestamp(0)) >= 180 }}"
  - "{{ (now()|as_timestamp - states['binary_sensor.presence_36'].last_changed|as_timestamp(0)) >= 180 }}"
  - condition: state
    entity_id:
      - input_boolean.shabes_mode
      - input_boolean.away_mode
    state: "off"

Change the 180 to the number of seconds you need — should match the for in the trigger. Obviously, include your existing action section too :slight_smile:.

This triggers when either sensor has been off for 3 mins, but only continues through the conditions if both are off and have not changed for at least three minutes.

8

doesn’t work…

9

That really doesn’t give me much to go on. In what way does it “not work”? Are there any traces showing triggers and condition blocks?

Can you put this in the Template Editor and let me know the result?

{{ now() }}
{{ utcnow() }}
{{ now()|as_timestamp }}
{{ utcnow()|as_timestamp }}
{{ states['binary_sensor.presence_35'].last_changed }}
{{ states['binary_sensor.presence_35'].last_changed|as_timestamp(0) }}