Remove existing Lovelace config before upgrade to 86.2

I had tried Lovelace on an earlier release but I wanted to remove it before upgrading to 86.2. I deleted ui-lovelace.yaml and checked that there was no file in .storage. However, when I browse to /lovelace, I still see the old Lovelace setup. If I upgrade to 86.2, this is what I get, not a clean setup.

What have I missed?

Was your old Lovelace a conversion from groups?

If so, your upgrade just grabbed groups and converted to Lovelace

I used the Lovelace Migration add-on to generate a ui-lovelace.yaml file, but I never set it as the default UI. So I assumed just deleting the file would give me a clean start to use the UI editor.

Doesn’t matter if old Lovelace was a default.

When you upgraded, and it didn’t have a Lovelace yaml, it generated one from your groups.

You can still use the UI editor as long as you don’t have lovelace yaml mode in your config

Maybe I’m misunderstanding the migration process here. I reverted back to 85.1 with no ui-lovelace.yaml or .storage/lovelace, and there are no lovelace entries in my configuration.yaml. I then click on Try Lovelace UI in the info panel and I get a Lovelace version of my standard UI with nothing changed. Is this correct?

If I then click on Configure UI I get the warning “By default Home Assistant will maintain your user interface, updating it when new entities or Lovelace components become available. If you take control we will no longer make changes automatically for you.”

I assume this means it is switching Lovelace to yaml mode which I do not want. However, if I click on take control, I get a lovelace file in .storage not a ui-lovelace.yaml!

If I then click on Configure UI again, I get the Lovelace config screen where I can edit cards, etc.

So my question is which Lovelace mode an I in???

Nope. It means it’s using the UI editor and the Lovelace config will live in .storage.

Normal Lovelace with UI editor

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Thank you very much @flamingm0e for the clarification, one last question. Have I lost automatic updating of entities & Lovelace components as the message says, and if so how do I get it back?

The message says so…

If you want it back to home assistant doing it for you (why you would want that I have no idea), just shutdown home assistant and delete the Lovelace file out of .storage and start home assistant back up

After much re-reading of the documentation, I have it clear in my head! It really is a fantastic improvement on the old UI. Thanks again!