I have a SAMSUNG 2020 THE FRAME - Code: QA75LS03TAWXXY - available to test with.
to be honest, after testing a couple of components, jaruba among them, I wasn’t completely pleased. I’ve been using jaruba’s for more than a year, which is great, but recently certain features went down for my model and moved away to something else.
I ended up creating my own “integration”, mixing webCoRE (webCore only works for TVs showing up in Smartthings) with http requests and node red (I assume it can be done in HA as well) and putting everythign together with the universal media player integration in HA. I’ts not really hard, I’m kind of a newbie and it works worlds better than any integration I tried.
The tv updates every 5 seconds in HA and always sets the correct picture and sound settings for every source/app/whatever, which were my two main aims. Beyond that,webcore does feature a bunch of available commands not present in any integration. It would be great if we could investigrate webCoRE together in this forum because the majority of commands are straightforward but some aren’t and there’s not documentation about them in the webCoRE forums. We are probably missing something really powerful whithin webcore and it can be really easily triggered from HA. Here are all the commands available for my TV.
I decided to open a new thread so whoever wants to come investigate is welcome:
Another user with 2 TVs here, an older 2013 legacy one and a 2020 Tizen one. I seem to have the opposite problem of everyone else in that the new one works well with both ollo69 and jaruba’s integrations (thanks for the great work) but I can’t find one that will reliably report on the power state of the older legacy one. The official integration will pick it up but the power state flips between on and off when the TV is constantly on so it is no good for a simple automation to switch the back lighting which is all I am trying to do. Does anyone know of a integration that works on the older pre Tizen models and will reliably report state please?
Thanks Pete
UN40MU6290 and UN55KU6290 here. Certainly willing to test intermittently.
I haven’t gone down the path of checking out the implementations mentioned above but I will be looking into those with interest over the next few weeks.
I don’t know that any of you have tried this custom integration. I have an H series TV, an H6400, and it works well. This custom integration is actively developed as well, so there are fixes on breaking changes.
The story of the H series is that Samsung originally released with a non-ecrypted connection. It had a lot of awesome features like sending the TV screen’s content to your phone or tablet through the official app, then they removed the functionality probably because someone sued them for copyright issues if you send the content to another device.
Then they did a few firmware updates until they introduced and encrypted connection as well. SmartThings originally was supporting these TVs until the encryption took place. In SmartThings’ groovy code there is no way to do encryption like AES what the device required. These encrypted TVs are pre-Tizen, but not that much as the others, as they fall into a category in between the two.
The only downside of the H series TVs is that you cannot turn them on remote. You either need to use HDMI CEC or an IR blaster like a Broadlink device.
I hope it helps!
Tks for the info! By any chance do yu know if it’s still possible to revert back the firmware?
Unfortunately no idea. Try to search for SamyGo and read some articles on the old forum there. But why would you want to revert a firmware. Mostly nothing is supported there anymore…
I cannot really think any advantage of reverting the firmware on an old TV like the H series…
It is a nice 4 HDMI TV with 3D support, but any smart functionality is pointless anymore, except the integration to control it, but it works with the latest firmware.
Thanks a lot for your quick answer.
I want to try roll back the flash as the official HA integration is not being useful and just as you mentioned at the end of your comment… “The only downside of the H series TVs is that you cannot turn them on remote” … I’m not being able to control anything at all about tyhis device … I do can see it state (on/off) but that’s it … i cant change the source, volumen turn it on/off… so as far as I understood you maaaybe with the past firmware it could be possible so I want to try as with this one is not possible
Do you think it could work? Or by chance do you know any other integration that actually let me control the H series? Thanks again!
What I linked above that is working with the H series, but here is the link again:
Install it from HACS
About turning the TV on remote, it is a physical limitation of the TV. It goes to deep sleep and can only be waken up by either HDMI CEC commands or IR, like Broadlink.
the README is still talking about a get_token.py and a PIN… but seems nothing work for my model… i’ve also opened an issue at time with no final solution https://github.com/sermayoral/ha-samsungtv-encrypted/issues/44
my final workaround was to use a broadlink IR https://github.com/dimagoltsman/generic-remote-control-card … oviusly i have no “current status” of the TV
Have you ever connected your model to the SmartView app by Samsung?
Unfortunately the app has been decommissioned by Samsung and cannot be downloaded anymore from the Play Store, but that was one of the official apps to control the TV from the local network.
Here are some links for reference:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.smartviewad
https://www.samsung.com/ie/apps/tv/smart-view/
https://m.apkpure.com/samsung-smart-view-service-will-end-in-october/com.samsung.smartviewad/amp
The other question is that your TV is running the latest firmware and was it ever supporting remote control from the app.
No… maybe I got the TV just few months after the decommissioning, so the TV already got updated to the latest firmware and i was not able to use it
The repo https://github.com/eclair4151/SmartCrypto is talking about a SmartView2 implementation, so i assume for who have a SmartView(1) model there is nothing that can be done?
Then try to grab it from ApkPure and give it a try.
Your TV might not on the latest firmware with the introduced secure connection.
Try to give a go with the built in Samsung TV integration of HA, there were some changes recently on that as I can remember.
Have a look at this as well for reference:
Edit:
Definitely look at the built in Samsung TV integration, it has went through some upgrades.
Even @sermayoral confirmed that it is working now with the H6400 models. So things changed a lot since my last post in February.
The nice thing in ApkPure that they keep all the older versions of apps as well.
Here you can find the older Smart View apps too:
Going back to the original request… Seems like nobody figured out how to support Samsung TVs from 2012-2014 yet. I tried all the plugins in HACS and the integration using Samsung Smart TV and it discovers the TV without any devices or entities. I simply want to power it on an off without having to go down the path of IR or smart plug.
When I entered the IP address in the Samsung Smart TV integration, the smart TV asked for confirmation and it shows in my network settings in the TV “Home Assistant” as authorized but I don’t have any entities to control
If you are talking about the H series TVs, then you have a major problem of understanding how the TV works. You cannot turn on the TV without IR or HDMI CEC.
I am still using @sermayoral’s integration and works well. It has a solution to use an IR blaster or other device through a service call to turn on the TV. Turning off is not a problem.
It has not been updated for a while as CORE has the H series integrated as well, but for me was not reliable. But as we speak, on HA 2023.08, it is still working (without a device, but with a single entity).
I had just written a post about this on another thread.
I have a HU7500 but I haven’t understood how to turn it on with CEC control, could you help me?
Hi Diego,
I remember you from the SmartThings Community Forum!
For HDMI CEC, you need a device which is connected to the TV by HDMI and can trigger a CEC wake command to the TV. Home Assistant used to have a CEC integration for the Raspberry Pi, but it has been removed ages ago. I believe it still exist as a custom component.
I use the aforementioned integration which has an option to create a service call for the on command of the entity. That can be used to trigger the device with the HDMI connector connected to the TV.
To be honest, it is easier to have a Broadlink IR Blaster or some other one, and turn on the TV with IR.
yes I’m :-)… I look around me to see if Home assistant can help me improve my home automation compared to Smartthings
You are absolutely right about the CEC. To tell the truth, for automations I’m only interested in being able to turn it off, when I go out, to turn it on the voice assistant, the remote control, the ir blaster app (switcbot from Smartthings not compatible in Home assistant) will be fine