Searching for stable, reliable EU zigbee smart plug that is available from amazon.de

Hello,
I am planning to replace some Tuya/Teckin SP22 smart plugs (new chipset unfortunately, so no way of tasmotizing or putting ESPHOME onto them) with zigbee plugs.
I live in germany and have some yet special requirements, sorted in order of priority:

  1. It must work with a german power outlet (Schuko, 230V) and be available from amazon.de
  2. The plug must be very reliable and stable in conjunction with ZHA
  3. It should work well as a router, so it should be as standard-compliant as possible
  4. They should (not must) be under 30€ each

The stability refers to both connection and hardware durability, because the Tuya plugs were (and the new ones should also be this winter) used for christmas/ambient lights last year, and I have one already defective and had another randomly switching on/off or not switching despite schedules were set up.

I already looked into the Nous A12Z plugs that fit all my requirements, but I don’t really have experience in terms of zigbee or ZHA except paring some hue lights, a hue dimmer remote V2 and a ledvance outdoor plug with my stick and binding the lights to the remote.

Do you know or use any plug that fits these requirements?

Thanks in advance
Aaron

happy with these, working with Z2MQTT, not sure about ZHA.

single plug: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07VCG5G7H - OSRAM AC10691 control via MQTT | Zigbee2MQTT
Multiplier: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B093HG7LTB - UseeLink SM-0306E-2W control via MQTT | Zigbee2MQTT

Edit: Added Z2MQTT pages to find model numbers easily

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Thank you, I’ll try and look up if they also work with ZHA…

Strongly suggest you just upgrade straight to an ESPHome plug from Athom. ZigBee devices are notorious for their flakiness. You will be pulling yourself out of a hole to go to another hole.

Source: I have over 80 ZigBee devices, slowly moving to ESPHome instead.

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My problem is that there aren’t any devices with esphome pre-flashed on amazon.de, but there are some with Tasmota, such as these from Nous.
Could I buy these and flash it to ESPHome OTA, without opening the device, and if yes, how?
If I cannot flash ESPHome OTA to them, can I just use Tasmota with HA?

I was planning to use zigbee plugs because I plan to use some zigbee sensors (temperature, humidity, door opening, light, etc.) and these would simultaneously work as routers for these too.

Good idea. These will strengthen your mesh.

What zigbee adapter do you use, do you connect over ZHA or Z2M?
I use a Sonoff ZBDongle-P and it is very reliable and has a long range

Same here, more specifically, my zigbee channel is 11 and if i set my wifi channel to 1, i am having lots of flakiness for zigbee devices. But, if i change my wifi channel to 10 or 11, everything gets better.

So, many of these issues are channel optimization issues except non standard zigbee devices

I use channel [quote=“fuatakgun, post:9, topic:600198, full:true”]
Same here, more specifically, my zigbee channel is 11 and if i set my wifi channel to 1, i am having lots of flakiness for zigbee devices. But, if i change my wifi channel to 10 or 11, everything gets better.

So, many of these issues are channel optimization issues except non standard zigbee devices
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I’m also using channel 11, but I had used 25 in the past to see if it improves range, but it just didn’t. I think I just need more router devices, like the Ledvance plugs…

If you could do without Amazon, I’d suggest taking a look at the well known and well working Zigbee devices from Lidl. They are available from the online shop, if you nicely ask the cashier on your next shopping trip to Lidl, they’ll even give you a free shipping voucher.

These:

Do these work with ZHA and Sonoff ZBDongle P?
Also, how is the range and routing stability of these?

Keep in mind, these are tuya devices, not saying they are bad but they don’t follow zigbee guidelines

Yes, and yes. :slight_smile: The range is good, the longest distance in my case is around ten meters and the routing works nicely. Can’t comlplain. Using these for over three years, have already bought twice again - I think I can say, I’m happy with them. :rofl:

Apparently some zigbee devices do not like 25, i think some Xiaomi/aqara ones.

On my opinion much better option will be to go for zigbee outlet than a plug. I started with plugs, maybe back then there wasn’t any outlets. But today you can buy zigbee outlet with power monitoring function. It looks way better than a plug and acts as a router.

Does that mean that e.g they only route if paired with Tuya Gateway? Or are they just normal devices which report in a bit non-standard-confirming way?

No, they mostly work with zha / zigbee2mqtt. I personally use them across the house.

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The problem is that my plan is to use them for temporary lights or devices, e.g for christmas lights, and I can’t make any changes to the electrical wiring, that’s why I plan to use plugs…

Thanks for the Info, I’ll look into those

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