Set device status in scene or automation to current state

When configuring a scene or automation with many devices it would be very useful if i could copy the actual state of devices into the scene. So in case of a scene with many lights i can just (manually, outside of HA) set the lights in the correct brightness and colour and then add fhem to the scene. Now i need to add them to HA in their default state and guess wants the correct brightness and colour.