Smart light Scenes - adding new lights automatically

Feature Requests
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Note: I am primarily referring to lights within scenes. The feature request mainly targets lights but could potentially be extended to other devices.

One of the most frustrating aspects of adding new devices to Home Assistant is the effort required to integrate them into existing automations and numerous scenes. For scenes, at least, there could be a more streamlined solution.

Currently, devices must be added to each scene individually, and their color and brightness (in case of lights) values must be set manually. This process can be tedious and time-consuming.

A new feature, which I’ll refer to as “smart scenes,” could simplify the process of adding new devices and creating scenes, albeit with some limitations. Here’s the concept:

Proposal: Smart Scenes

  1. Smart scenes would be a distinct type of scene, separate from classic scenes.
  2. When creating a smart scene:
  • Devices can still be selected manually, similar to how it works in classic scenes.
  • Additionally, users can assign labels and/or rooms.
  • Lights with matching labels or room assignments will automatically be affected by the smart scene when it is activated.
  1. Settings for smart scenes:
  • Instead of configuring each light individually, users could define settings for brightness, color, or on/off status at the scene level.
  • When the scene is activated, all lamps with a matching label, room, or direct assignment to the smart scene will apply the configured settings.

Advantages:

Such a feature would make creating scenes and adding new devices much more efficient. The trade-off is that all lights in the smart scene would share the same settings, rather than being configured individually. However, this would still be a valuable option for users like me, who would appreciate the ability to use smart logic for some scenes, while retaining the flexibility to create other scenes with individual lamp settings.

2

Your suggestion seems to be limited a bit on lights only.
Scenes can contain all kind of devices, so the general setting of brightness, color and power status does not make sense.

You can as an example have a scene that lowers the brightness and change the colors of light bulbs, but also turn on the TV. The TV also contains a brightness and color setting.
You can also have a setting that turn off the TV and turn on the light bulbs. Here the power status is not opposite of devices in the scene, which could also happens with just light bulbs actually.

3

Yes, this type of scene would only apply to one type of device. Lights are the most common type of device i guess but it could also apply to other devices.

Would calling it “Smart light scenes” it make it more acceptable to you?

4

It was only to point out that the scenes currently in HA are not limited to only lights.

Your suggestion would there fore be a completely different type of scene and not an expansion of the current one.

The suggestion is fine, but sometimes the understanding of the underlying building blocks can change the suggestion to either something more in line with the current building blocks or it can change it into something exclusive that is not hindered by the current building blocks’ limitations.

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That’s a good point. I have updated the title and description of my feature request accordingly. Thx!