Springs Window Fashions (Somfy) covers

I am using Bali cellular shades equipped with Somfy motors. They show up as a “Springs Window Fashions (Graber) CSZ1 Cellular Shade” device in HA.

Why there are 4 entities associated with this device?

  1. “…level”

  2. “…level_2”

  3. “…switch”

  4. “…switch_2”

The “switch” entities appear to be binary (up/down) and “level” has a slide-bar so I suppose I could use that to set my shade half-open. “switch” is integral to the shade itself, meaning it is not the remote control that came with the shade; the remote is a separate device all together. But why are there two of each and why are there “switches” and “levels” as separate entities anyways?

Which thingies should I use in the GUI to operate and/or in automations?

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Cover description from the doc:

Then this doc which talks about implementing methods. What programming language is this even referring to or where would one even “implement this method”? I’m fundamentally confused by config via Z Wave Control Panel GUI vs config via configuration.yaml vs config via “implementing methods”, etc…

https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/en/entity_cover.html

The Bali/Somfy shades present themselves to Zwave much like a dimmer switch, that is with on/off (which is open/close) and dimmer level (that is percentage open 0 to 100%), which is why you see both an up (on)/down(closed) arrows and a position (level) in the cover entity.

_2 : It generally is the case where HA gets told about a device, it tries to find it in its existing database based on some uniqueness but can’t. If this happens but it does find a device with the same name, instead of replacing an existing entity, it simply creates a new one and add a _2 to the name. If you have two shades, I would think this would be what happens, but if you only have one shade, then hard for me to say but it does happen from time to time in HA and you’ll probably find one of the entities works but the other does not (so should delete the entity from the database that doesn’t work).

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Hi,
I paired through Z-wave, but I cannot figure it out how to make a cover entity from it. Could anyone help, please? Thank you!

Attached what I can see.

I don’t have the same setup, so not completely sure, but it appears that it discovered your remote (and the remote’s battery level) which is the VCZ1, but did not discover the cover itself.

Yeah, and I have no idea how to add the cover entity. It can see all the data, just cannot control it.

I have Bali Blinds which I believe are the same as Somfy/Grabber. I put together some notes for use with HA. See if the following helps:

Although your remote controller is probably different, and may be set differently.

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Thanks a lot for your help @wmaker! I also have the Bali blind, and using this controller which I believe is exactly the same as the Bali: https://fccid.io/DWNVCZ/User-Manual/User-Manual-2982144.pdf

What I did based on your instructions:

  1. Reset the remote control - press until it flashes red quickly (first green, then amber, then red)
  2. Reset the blind - hold 7 sec, the shade jogs
  3. Press the “Add node” on the HA interface
  4. Press the button on the shade until green flashes (about 3 sec)
  5. ERROR - the shade flashes green for about 20 seconds (which I believe the time-out for pairing) and the shade does not show up in HA Zwave.

I can pair the remote control again to Zwave or to the shade as well, but the result is the same as in my screenshot above. The remote can control the shade and I can see the battery level in HA plus a lot of information about the remote control…

Any idea of what to try? Thanks a lot again!

Actually, this is the manual which states exactly what you wrote, it is just not working for me for some reason :frowning:

Hmmmm…not sure.
Is the blind too far away from HA/Zwave-Stick?
If you can find the OpenZwave logs, it may reveal what’s wrong.

Hi @wmaker - I am sorry took so long to get back here, was overwhelmed with work…

Could you please send me a screenshot of what info do you see about the shade in HA? I managed to connect both the Shade and the Remote to HA, but it does not work. I attached the log in case you have a moment to have a look at it and you see something I do not. I can see when I press the up/down button on the remote, it is actually sending a message to the Zwave stick. These are row 696 to 714.

Also attached screenshots what I can see in HA about the shade and the remote. I hope I am close to the solution here.

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

LOG.TXT

I can’t get to your log, seems its not publicly available. Is it the OpenZWave Log? That’s the one to really look at. Also to let you know, I don’t use HA’s ZWave, I use ZWave2MQTT.

Hi,
Actually, something is definitely wrong with the shade I tried. We have an other one which I tried and it is working properly. Since it is the same brand, we bought together, I have no idea what to do with it. Probably no way to fix it…

I fixed the link, you can access it now, but again, probably the shade is a lemon…
Thank you!

Looks like the device never responded, but somehow the at one time the ZStick found about Node2 which means the shade must have communicated at one time or another. I would suggest, force removing node2 from the Zstick and then try to “Include” the shade again.

Yes, Node2 is the shade, but it comes up only as a “Probe” after multiple tries. Maybe the Zwave stick is too far, cannot communicate properly and that’s causing this issue.

Figured it out! :))) Yeeeeeaaaaahhh :)))

So, in case any one else have issues with the shade’s Zwave, if you push and hold the reset button for long, the shade will totally reset itself, even the up and down position. This reset solved my problem. Steps I did:

You will also have to re-configure the up and down positions but it is very easy based on the manual.

Good luck!