Steinel IS 140-2 Zwave

Configuration Z-Wave
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I’m thinking of buying this motion sensor: https://www.steinel.de/nl/smart-home/smart-friends/is-140-2-z-wave-oxid.html

Have any of you any experience with the device?

Here is the page to buy it: https://www.fixami.be/steinel-is-140-2-z-wave-bewegingsmelder-wit-14m-029814.html

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Slightly touching the topic: I purchased XLED home 2 Z-Wave some time ago. Otherwise pretty happy about the purchase, but the main disappointment for me was that Home Assistant doesn’t support the configuration parameters of this product off the shelf. I guess there is not yet such configuration file existing that OpenZWave would require to detect the parameters. Unluckily I haven’t had chance to become familiar with trying to add such configuration as guided here.

As I ended up not having burning need to change any default settings and enjoyed the light so much, I decided to purchase exactly the same sensor that you are considering to control one of my existing outdoor lights, even with the potential risk that there would not be ready made support for changing its parameters via Home Assistant either. So far it has been waiting on the shelf for installation, though. I’m also going to purchase still few of those zwave lights, as one can anyway build automations to control them from Home Assistant, as my use cases are pretty simple.

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Thanks for the information

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Hi Philippe,

Did you had any succes adding this device to your home assistent? I just bought this Steinel device and want to add this to my automation. Light under the carport will be hard wired to the sensor but want to switch also other lights that are connected to my home assistent. So hope you had some succes.

Cheers,

Remco

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Since I didn’t get much feedback then I didn’t buy it.

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Mine was finally installed around two months ago and is working as expected. Sometime during the course of time the support of this sensor was included in OpenZWave, so Home Assistant supports it now out of the box, at least to my experience.

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Installed mine just now and all is working fine. Now see how to get things automated. I want to use the sensor for switching on other lights than connected to the sensor. Keep you posted.

@Mika_Kiikkila do you use the sensor to switch other lights or just the one connected directly?

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My sensor controls only the light physically connected directly to it.

It should be straightforward to create an automation in Home Assistant to control other lights too, where the trigger-part would be based on the state of the switch-entity that HA creates for your Steinel switch (“switch.ulkovalo_terassi_switch_1” in my case).

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I’m curious about this.
Is it only the motion sensor reportng movment through z-wave or is it possible to control the light from Home Assistant?

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Yes you can. Mine is set up so that the motion sensor directly controls the light (like a normal PIR light), but I also have a binary sensor in Home Assistant which is set by the PIR motion sensor.

It might just be me, but I’ve found setting the parameters for these to be a bit of a pain, but once set up they’ve been reliable

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Controlling the light from HA? Is it dimable? It would be nice to have it dimmed at 10-20% at night

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It’s just a relay, so the light is either on or off, there’s no option to dim it

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I have 7 of these motion detectors installed and they basically work, but seem to be a bit laggy. After checking the OZW log I found a large number of burglar events:

2020-05-16 14:50:03.687 Info, Node057, Received Alarm report: type=0, level=0, sensorSrcID=0, type:Burglar event:8, status=255
2020-05-16 14:50:03.687 Detail, Node057, Refreshed Value: old value=0, new value=0, type=byte
2020-05-16 14:50:03.687 Detail, Node057, Changes to this value are not verified
2020-05-16 14:50:03.687 Detail, Node057, Refreshed Value: old value=0, new value=0, type=byte
2020-05-16 14:50:03.688 Detail, Node057, Changes to this value are not verified
2020-05-16 14:50:03.688 Detail, Node057, Refreshed Value: old value=0, new value=0, type=byte
2020-05-16 14:50:03.688 Detail, Node057, Changes to this value are not verified
2020-05-16 14:50:03.688 Detail, Node057, Refreshed Value: old value=0, new value=8, type=byte
2020-05-16 14:50:03.688 Detail, Node057, Changes to this value are not verified
2020-05-16 14:50:03.688 Detail, Node057, Notification: ValueChanged
2020-05-16 14:50:03.782 Detail, Node057, Notification: ValueChanged
2020-05-16 14:50:03.864 Detail, Node057, Notification: ValueChanged
2020-05-16 14:50:03.973 Detail, Node057, Notification: ValueChanged
2020-05-16 14:50:09.835 Detail, Node057,   Received: 0x01, 0x10, 0x00, 0x04, 0x00, 0x39, 0x0a, 0x71, 0x05, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0xff, 0x07, 0x00, 0x01, 0x08, 0x5d
2020-05-16 14:50:09.835 Detail,
2020-05-16 14:50:09.837 Info, Node057, Received Alarm report: type=0, level=0, sensorSrcID=0, type:Burglar event:0, status=255
2020-05-16 14:50:09.837 Detail, Node057, Refreshed Value: old value=0, new value=0, type=byte
2020-05-16 14:50:09.837 Detail, Node057, Changes to this value are not verified
2020-05-16 14:50:09.838 Detail, Node057, Refreshed Value: old value=0, new value=0, type=byte
2020-05-16 14:50:09.838 Detail, Node057, Changes to this value are not verified
2020-05-16 14:50:09.838 Detail, Node057, Refreshed Value: old value=0, new value=0, type=byte
2020-05-16 14:50:09.838 Detail, Node057, Changes to this value are not verified
2020-05-16 14:50:09.838 Detail, Node057, Refreshed Value: old value=8, new value=0, type=byte
2020-05-16 14:50:09.838 Detail, Node057, Changes to this value are not verified
2020-05-16 14:50:09.838 Detail, Node057, Notification: ValueChanged
2020-05-16 14:50:09.935 Detail, Node057, Notification: ValueChanged
2020-05-16 14:50:10.019 Detail, Node057, Notification: ValueChanged
2020-05-16 14:50:10.174 Detail, Node057, Notification: ValueChanged

With 5-10 messages per minute the Z Wave network becomes a bit unreliable as other messages become delayed or will be dropped.

I changed parameter 2: Light threshold to 2 and sensitivity to 50 - From what I understand the device should now only send those events during night (below 2 lux). While messages seem to be less often, they don’t stop.

Do you guys have best practices with configuring this device to avoid / reduce network load?

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Hello,

i consider to ugrade my non Z-Wave Version and reading trough these posts and reviews, it seems to xled is flooding the logs. Is that still the case or did anyone find a good resolution?

Also i wonder what kind of devices + entities is being create in HomeAssistant.
May i kindly ask, if someone can post the z-Wave integration for this XLED and post it

Rgds

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You should be aware of a couple of things:

  1. Steinel is not actually supporting the devices on any Z-Wave controller except their own base station. Even though the device seems to follow the standard, you don’t get any support if it doesn’t work right.
  2. I had 7 of those around the house in combination with OZW 1.4 legacy. They could be included mostly on the first 2-3 tries and had a number of entities associated (the load of the PIR as a switch, luminance, movement, etc.) - however, after a couple of days most of them simply stopped responding or sending data. Only cutting power for a couple of minutes helped. Super annoying…
  3. They send updates on every movement they detect day and night (which is works as designed I guess). If you spend a day in the garden and have them trained on your porch thats hundreds / up to thousands of messages loading your Z-Wave network.
  4. For the IS-140 I found them to be unreliable - they sometime got stuck with the light on, once again cutting power was necessary.
  5. Only once, one of the devices malfunctioned and flooded the network with lots of messages per second.

In the end I excluded all of them as they just were to unreliable. I would not recommend them to anyone…

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Thank you for your profound report.
I made similar experience with the Steinel devices.
One question though.
Are you talking about the IS140 or IS140-2?
Thanks

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I am talking about the IS140-2 which just generally is a bad device imo. From the 6 I still have around my house only one is connected via Z-Wave JS - two others are currently manually switched off because the relay is stuck and I need to switch off power to solve that (which I currently don’t want to do. Two others I have completely disconnected from power and are controlling the lights now with my smart cameras, because the relay kept being stuck every 2-10 days. I had those exchanged by Steinel - same problem.

Right now it’s not much of a problem, but I am considering replacing them with a self-built ESPHomebased PIR when I find the time for another project…

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Thank you - I hoped I have a newer version.
Anyway, I will play around a little more.

So, have you been able to switch the relais using zwave at all /on HA?)
I do not even see the switch entity.

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Z-Wave JS supports it out of the box…

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Thank you.
I just pulled the power and interviewed the IS afterwards and now the switch and illuminance appeared as well.
I assume the inclusion was not properly finished.
However, I share your experience, that the IS is a unreliable device which needs to be power cycled Avery now and then.
How long it’s operational is still under investigation.
Again thanks for your help.