Strange Automation Results turning things off then back on

Configuration Z-Wave
1

I have three porch lights on zwave switches. I have the front and back porch set to turn on at the same time, with the other front light staggered by a minute or so to simulate it being manual.

Randomly - and this occurs during both the TURN ON and the TURN OFF - one of the lights will turn off but randomly turn back on.

Here’s a trace:
Call service switch.turn_off on entities switch.back_patio_switch_2, switch.front_porch_switch
(switch.front_porch_switch) turned off
(switch.back_patio_switch_2) turned off
Delay for {“hours”:0,“minutes”:2,“seconds”:38,“milliseconds”:0}
3 minutes later
Call service switch.turn_off on entities switch.garage_coach_switch
(switch.garage_coach_switch) turned off
1 second later
(switch.garage_coach_switch) turned on
Finished at August 30, 2022 at 7:12:25 AM (runtime: 158.37 seconds)

He turned it all off ok, but that 2nd to last night, he turned the light back on!

Here’s my YAML.

alias: Turn OFF Porch Lights Morning
description: ""
trigger:
  - platform: sun
    event: sunrise
    offset: "+0:09:00"
condition: []
action:
  - service: switch.turn_off
    data: {}
    target:
      entity_id:
        - switch.back_patio_switch_2
        - switch.front_porch_switch
  - delay:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 2
      seconds: 38
      milliseconds: 0
  - service: switch.turn_off
    data: {}
    target:
      entity_id: switch.garage_coach_switch
mode: single

Appreciate your thoughts, thanks!

2

I get this randomly, I run an automation that will turn off lights, then a few seconds later the lights will turn back on.

It does seem to only happen with ZWave devices, I have a suspicion that theres a bug with the the lights service and zwave. Just this morning I have it turn outside lights off, the zwave ones turned on 10 seconds later, the Hue Lights stayed off.

Seem related to only ZWave devices for me at least

3

Do you have helpers to turn your switches into lights? Or you just use them as the default “switch”?

4

Reason I ask is I wonder if it’s a state thing where it tries to change both and ZWave freaks out?

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5

I’m not running any helpers. In fact, I’m not sure what they are - I’ve been running HA for only a year or so.

These devices are also ZWAVE. Funny though, after I posted this, they seemed to have gotten their act together and I haven’t seen this behavior since.

In any event, it was my first HA implementation. Just this weekend, I’m starting over fresh, trying to implement with more best practices.

Thanks.