Strange issue with grouped lights with colour & brightness

Hello there,
I am having an unusual problem with my groups of lights, I have several groups and one Zone which contains the lights from several other rooms, I am having a strange issue where sometimes the group is recognised as light control.

And other times it only shows on/off controls.

I have tested this with various circumstances such as using different (and default) themes, having only one group, a mixture of light groups and regular groups, different devices, trying with all lights on and some lights off. The colour wheel and brightness seem to only come up randomly and I cant pin down why. Strangely enough it seems to happen more often with Zone 1 compared to the other groups.

Light group works okay but I unfortunately can not use them for my Zone 1 due to not having the all options which I require, plus having individual light controls from the group is fairly handy.

For reference, here is my groups.yaml

zone1lights:
  name: Zone 1
  all: true
  entities:
    - light.lounge_room_lamp
    - light.lounge_room_table_lamp
    - light.console
    - light.living_space_table_lamp
    - light.sunroom_lamp_top
    - light.sunroom_lamp_bottom
    - light.sunroom_hanging_lights
    - light.front_hall_lamp
    - light.front_hall_ceiling
    - light.dining_room_right
    - light.dining_room_left
masterbedroomlights:
  name: Master Bedroom Lights
  entities:
    - light.master_bedroom_lamp
    - light.master_bedroom_table
    - light.master_bedroom_sidetable_left
    - light.master_bedroom_sidetable_right
loungeroomlights:
  name: Lounge Room Lights
  entities:
    - light.lounge_room_lamp
    - light.lounge_room_table_lamp
    - light.console
livingspacelights:
  name: Living Space Lights
  entities:
    - light.living_space_table_lamp
sunroomlights:
  name: Sunroom Lights
  entities:
    - light.sunroom_lamp_top
    - light.sunroom_lamp_bottom
    - light.sunroom_hanging_lights
liamsbedroomlights:
  name: Liam's Bedroom Lights
  entities:
    - light.liam_s_bedroom_table_lamp
    - light.liam_s_bedroom_lamp_right
    - light.liam_s_bedroom_lamp_left
    - light.liam_s_bedroom_ceiling
gamesroomlights:
  name: Game's Room Lights
  entities:
    - light.desk
    - light.nanoleaf
fronthalllights:
  name: Front Hall Lights
  entities:
    - light.front_hall_lamp
    - light.front_hall_ceiling
diningroomlights:
  name: Dining Room Lights
  entities:
    - light.dining_room_right
    - light.dining_room_left
bathroomlights:
  name: Bathroom Lights
  entities:
    - light.bathroom_ceiling

And here is my lights part of my configuration.yaml

light:
  - platform: switch
    name: Sunroom Hanging Lights
    entity_id: switch.sunroom_christmas_lights
  - platform: switch
    name: Master Bedroom Sidetable Left
    entity_id: switch.master_bedroom_sidetable_left
  - platform: switch
    name: Master Bedroom Sidetable Right
    entity_id: switch.master_bedroom_sidetable_right
  - platform: nanoleaf
    host: 10.0.10.55
    token: xxxxxxxxxxx

I am using Home Assistant 0.116.4 installed via Home Assistant Supervised running on Ubuntu 18.04.5.

Thank you for your help.

A switch is represented as a simple toggle button, in the Lovelace UI, whereas a light also includes brightness and possibly even color if supported.

Your group appears to contain a mix of lights and switches. A group tries to represent itself as the “common denominator” for its members. Perhaps when a real light, that supports color, is on then the group represents itself as that member, namely a light with color control.

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I was thinking that, so I experimented with having different versions on and off. It seems to have the same effect, it would have also not affected all the other groups as well that only have Hue lights in them.