Hi legends.
I am new to this and am now trying to build some basic automation around temperature and contact sensors.
I am wanting the heater to turn off if the door has been left open for X amount of time or if the temp reaches above X
And I am wanting it to turn on of the door has been closed for X amount of time and if the fhe temp is below X
I thought I had it sorted but seems likes it still isn’t triggering even if the condktons are met.
I will post the details once I’m on my PC
Thanks
Taking your logic exactly as written, assuming the time is 5 minutes and making up some temperatures with a bit of hysteresis gap:
trigger:
- platform: state
entity_id: binary_sensor.door_contact
to: "off"
for: "00:05:00"
id: "off"
- platform: numeric_state
entity_id: sensor.temp
above: 19
id: "off"
- platform: state
entity_id: binary_sensor.door_contact
to: "on"
for: "00:05:00"
id: "on"
- platform: numeric_state
entity_id: sensor.temp
below: 18
id: "on"
condition:
- or:
- condition: trigger
id: "off"
- and:
- condition: state
entity_id: binary_sensor.door_contact
state: "on"
for: "00:05:00"
- condition: numeric_state
entity_id: sensor.temp
below: 18
action:
- service: switch.turn_{{ trigger.id }}
target:
entity_id: switch.heater
Triggers off any of the possible things. The conditions then check: either we’re turning off (which only requires one of the things to be true; or both of the “and” requirements are OK for turning on.
Usual caveat that numeric state triggers only fire when the boundary is crossed. If it’s already “hot” at an HA restart, the action may not run as you might expect.
I will give that a run!
This is what i currently have set for the turning it on:
alias: Polly heater turn on
description: heater turns on when the door is closed and temp is below 16
trigger:
Always better to use entity-based triggers and conditions (state, numeric state etc) rather than the complicated device triggers.
Also, please format code properly for the forum: either use the </> button or type three backticks before and after the code:
```
code goes here
```
Thansk fella!
I will for next time.
I have tried your code and i think its working but I do get an error in the trace when testing:
Error: Template rendered invalid service: switch.turn_
alias: Polly room automation test
description: ""
trigger:
- platform: state
entity_id:
- binary_sensor.polly_door_sensor_door
to: "off"
for:
hours: 0
minutes: 3
seconds: 0
id: "off"
- platform: numeric_state
entity_id:
- sensor.temperature_humidity_sensor_temperature_2
above: 19
id: "off"
- platform: state
entity_id:
- binary_sensor.polly_door_sensor_door
to: "on"
for:
hours: 0
minutes: 3
seconds: 0
id: "on"
- platform: numeric_state
entity_id:
- sensor.temperature_humidity_sensor_temperature_2
below: 14
id: "on"
condition:
- condition: or
conditions:
- condition: trigger
id: "off"
- condition: and
conditions:
- condition: state
entity_id: binary_sensor.polly_door_sensor_door
state: "on"
for:
hours: 0
minutes: 3
seconds: 0
- condition: numeric_state
entity_id: sensor.temp
below: 14
action:
- service: switch.turn_{{ trigger.id }}
target:
entity_id: switch.polly_room_heater_switch
When you say “when testing”, do you mean “manually executing”? That’s expected behaviour: if you manually execute it, none of the triggers fires, and trigger.id is not set.
Also, I think you need to replace my sensor.temp placeholder in the final condition with the real entity ID.
my oversight on the sensor.temp. this is changed.
I tried closing the door in the room and waiting to see if it turned on, but no go.
i will see how it runs overnight. thank you for your help!
It will only turn on if it’s been closed for 3 minutes and it’s below 14°C. It should have generated a trace showing the trigger and being stopped by a condition.
I changed the temp to a more reasonale 19c as it was floating around 17ish. looking at the traces it seems to have triggered correctly.
i have set up the same automation in another room and have received an error in the traces:
Executed: April 17, 2024 at 7:58:36 PM
Error: Template rendered invalid service: switch.turn_
alias: Master bedroom temp tester
description: ""
trigger:
- platform: state
entity_id:
- binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door
to: "off"
for:
hours: 0
minutes: 3
seconds: 0
id: "off"
- platform: numeric_state
entity_id:
- sensor.master_bedroom_temp_humidity_sensor_temperature
above: 21
id: "off"
- platform: state
entity_id:
- binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door
to: "on"
for:
hours: 0
minutes: 3
seconds: 0
id: "on"
- platform: numeric_state
entity_id:
- sensor.master_bedroom_temp_humidity_sensor_temperature
below: 19
id: "on"
condition:
- condition: or
conditions:
- condition: trigger
id: "off"
- condition: and
conditions:
- condition: state
entity_id: binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door
state: "on"
for:
hours: 0
minutes: 3
seconds: 0
- condition: numeric_state
entity_id: sensor.master_bedroom_temp_humidity_sensor_temperature
below: 19
action:
- service: switch.turn_{{ trigger.id }}
target:
entity_id: switch.master_bedroom_heater_plug
Again, you must have manually executed it. This error:
Error: Template rendered invalid service: switch.turn_
is indicating that trigger.id is empty, as it’s the output of this:
- service: switch.turn_{{ trigger.id }}
and trigger.id cannot be empty if one of the triggers fired, as they all have ids against them.
Are you perhaps thinking that you need to “execute” or “run” the automation to enable it once created?
ok, makes sense now, i get a bit impatient lol. both automations should now turn off when they reach their turn off trigger?
The heater switch should be turned off when the door has been left open for 3 minutes (assuming off == open) or when the temperature rises above the threshold.
That action will run even if the switch is already off: it’ll do nothing (can’t turn it more off 
) but will generate a trace.
I have checked the latest trace. it ha triggered, but ossibly the opposite way?
the door is closed and the temp is below the threshold and the switch turned off.
sorry for so much back and forth!
{
"trace": {
"last_step": "action/0",
"run_id": "e4cc6f024ba1666e3247638290329b96",
"state": "stopped",
"script_execution": "finished",
"timestamp": {
"start": "2024-04-17T10:19:53.982575+00:00",
"finish": "2024-04-17T10:19:54.100277+00:00"
},
"domain": "automation",
"item_id": "1713347838734",
"trigger": "state of binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door",
"trace": {
"trigger/0": [
{
"path": "trigger/0",
"timestamp": "2024-04-17T10:19:53.982728+00:00",
"changed_variables": {
"this": {
"entity_id": "automation.master_bedroom_temp_tester",
"state": "on",
"attributes": {
"id": "1713347838734",
"last_triggered": "2024-04-17T09:58:36.438534+00:00",
"mode": "single",
"current": 0,
"friendly_name": "Master bedroom temp tester"
},
"last_changed": "2024-04-17T09:57:24.114995+00:00",
"last_reported": "2024-04-17T09:58:36.441741+00:00",
"last_updated": "2024-04-17T09:58:36.441741+00:00",
"context": {
"id": "01HVNQWWMPQXM9C459EBB82RF3",
"parent_id": "01HVNQWWMN6DCJEGPK6598M52S",
"user_id": null
}
},
"trigger": {
"id": "off",
"idx": "0",
"alias": null,
"platform": "state",
"entity_id": "binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door",
"from_state": {
"entity_id": "binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door",
"state": "on",
"attributes": {
"device_class": "door",
"friendly_name": "Master bedroom door sensor Door"
},
"last_changed": "2024-04-17T10:15:32.026047+00:00",
"last_reported": "2024-04-17T10:15:32.026047+00:00",
"last_updated": "2024-04-17T10:15:32.026047+00:00",
"context": {
"id": "01HVNRVWDTNZD7FQMADYH45M5W",
"parent_id": null,
"user_id": null
}
},
"to_state": {
"entity_id": "binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door",
"state": "off",
"attributes": {
"device_class": "door",
"friendly_name": "Master bedroom door sensor Door"
},
"last_changed": "2024-04-17T10:16:53.980046+00:00",
"last_reported": "2024-04-17T10:16:53.980046+00:00",
"last_updated": "2024-04-17T10:16:53.980046+00:00",
"context": {
"id": "01HVNRYCEWZ5MDBFN1Y6BC5TQW",
"parent_id": null,
"user_id": null
}
},
"for": {
"__type": "<class 'datetime.timedelta'>",
"total_seconds": 180
},
"attribute": null,
"description": "state of binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door"
}
}
}
],
"condition/0": [
{
"path": "condition/0",
"timestamp": "2024-04-17T10:19:53.982843+00:00",
"result": {
"result": true
}
}
],
"condition/0/conditions/0": [
{
"path": "condition/0/conditions/0",
"timestamp": "2024-04-17T10:19:53.982929+00:00",
"result": {
"result": true
}
}
],
"action/0": [
{
"path": "action/0",
"timestamp": "2024-04-17T10:19:53.984232+00:00",
"changed_variables": {
"context": {
"id": "01HVNS3W7YTQ4ZAE5E75KP3AFD",
"parent_id": "01HVNRYCEWZ5MDBFN1Y6BC5TQW",
"user_id": null
}
},
"result": {
"params": {
"domain": "switch",
"service": "turn_off",
"service_data": {},
"target": {
"entity_id": [
"switch.master_bedroom_heater_plug"
]
}
},
"running_script": false
}
}
]
},
"config": {
"id": "1713347838734",
"alias": "Master bedroom temp tester",
"description": "",
"trigger": [
{
"platform": "state",
"entity_id": [
"binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door"
],
"to": "off",
"for": {
"hours": 0,
"minutes": 3,
"seconds": 0
},
"id": "off"
},
{
"platform": "numeric_state",
"entity_id": [
"sensor.master_bedroom_temp_humidity_sensor_temperature"
],
"above": 21,
"id": "off"
},
{
"platform": "state",
"entity_id": [
"binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door"
],
"to": "on",
"for": {
"hours": 0,
"minutes": 3,
"seconds": 0
},
"id": "on"
},
{
"platform": "numeric_state",
"entity_id": [
"sensor.master_bedroom_temp_humidity_sensor_temperature"
],
"below": 19,
"id": "on"
}
],
"condition": [
{
"condition": "or",
"conditions": [
{
"condition": "trigger",
"id": "off"
},
{
"condition": "and",
"conditions": [
{
"condition": "state",
"entity_id": "binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door",
"state": "on",
"for": {
"hours": 0,
"minutes": 3,
"seconds": 0
}
},
{
"condition": "numeric_state",
"entity_id": "sensor.master_bedroom_temp_humidity_sensor_temperature",
"below": 19
}
]
}
]
}
],
"action": [
{
"service": "switch.turn_{{ trigger.id }}",
"target": {
"entity_id": "switch.master_bedroom_heater_plug"
}
}
]
},
"blueprint_inputs": null,
"context": {
"id": "01HVNS3W7YTQ4ZAE5E75KP3AFD",
"parent_id": "01HVNRYCEWZ5MDBFN1Y6BC5TQW",
"user_id": null
}
},
"logbookEntries": [
{
"name": "Master bedroom temp tester",
"message": "triggered by state of binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door",
"source": "state of binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door",
"entity_id": "automation.master_bedroom_temp_tester",
"context_id": "01HVNS3W7YTQ4ZAE5E75KP3AFD",
"when": 1713349193.983198,
"domain": "automation"
},
{
"when": 1713349194.608292,
"state": "off",
"entity_id": "switch.master_bedroom_heater_plug",
"context_event_type": "automation_triggered",
"context_domain": "automation",
"context_name": "Master bedroom temp tester",
"context_message": "triggered by state of binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door",
"context_source": "state of binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door",
"context_entity_id": "automation.master_bedroom_temp_tester"
}
]
}
Maybe I got the contact switches the wrong way around. I’d ass-u-med they were off when the door is open.
Just change the two to: statements for the door sensors the other way around, as well as the single state: "on" to state: "off" in the condition.
looks like got is working as intended wit hthe below code. thank you so much for your help!
alias: Master bedroom temp tester
description: ""
trigger:
- platform: state
entity_id:
- binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door
to: "on"
for:
hours: 0
minutes: 3
seconds: 0
id: "off"
- platform: numeric_state
entity_id:
- sensor.master_bedroom_temp_humidity_sensor_temperature
above: 21
id: "off"
- platform: state
entity_id:
- binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door
to: "off"
for:
hours: 0
minutes: 3
seconds: 0
id: "on"
- platform: numeric_state
entity_id:
- sensor.master_bedroom_temp_humidity_sensor_temperature
below: 19
id: "on"
condition:
- condition: or
conditions:
- condition: trigger
id: "off"
- condition: and
conditions:
- condition: state
entity_id: binary_sensor.master_bedroom_door_sensor_door
state: "off"
for:
hours: 0
minutes: 3
seconds: 0
- condition: numeric_state
entity_id: sensor.master_bedroom_temp_humidity_sensor_temperature
below: 19
action:
- service: switch.turn_{{ trigger.id }}
target:
entity_id: switch.master_bedroom_heater_plug
I’ll advise you to switch to a generic thermostat instead of automation.
It makes it much simpler for you.
All the normal automation will be done automatically.
You don’t need to worry about restarts or automation reloads that break your automation.
You will get a GUI to set the temperature instead of changing in the automation.
The only thing you need to add is an automation that triggers on the door and switch off the generic thermostat entity