Time condition or + and

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1

I would like to create an automation that has as a condition: location of people, “home”, to run or if the location is not “home” the execution is fulfilled at a certain time. i have created next automation but it doesn’t works condition or: for certain hour, please could you take a look:

- id: Auto-off lights
  alias: Auto-off lights at 23:30pm
  trigger:
    platform: time
    at: '23:00:00'
  condition:
    condition: and
    conditions:
      - condition: state
        entity_id: person.jonh
        state: home
        for:
          minutes: 1
      - condition: state
        entity_id: person.dan
        state: home
        for:
          minutes: 1
    condition: or
    conditions:
      - condition: time
        after: '23:50:00'
  action:
  - data:
      entity_id: switch.sonoff_light
    service: homeassistant.turn_off

thanks!

2

I think you need to read up on some basics. Specifically what the triggers and conditions of an automation mean and do. Also, you need to read more on how to use the and & or conditions (which, understandably, are a bit confusing.)

See:

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3

thanks!
I have read it and yes I’m a little confused
this is why im asking.:roll_eyes:

4

So think about it this way. Triggers define when the actions of an automation should run. Conditions, on the other hand, decide if the actions will run (when a trigger “fires”.)

So, ask yourself – when do you want to turn off the light? Then compose a trigger or triggers that will watch for those events (i.e., a time happening, an entity changing state, etc.)

Then, when a trigger fires, ask yourself if the light should be turned off at that point regardless of other things, or if it should only be turned off at that point if other conditions are met – e.g., an entity is in a certain state, or has been for a minimum amount of time, etc. Then write a condition or conditions that describe that.

5

understood
but I am not able to translate to an automatism.
I want the light to go out at 23.00 and as a condition that two people are in the home state. here thr script:

- id: Auto-off lights
  alias: Auto-off lights at 23:30pm
  trigger:
    platform: time
    at: '23:00:00'
  condition:
    condition: and
    conditions:
      - condition: state
        entity_id: person.jonh
        state: home
        for:
          minutes: 1
      - condition: state
        entity_id: person.dan
        state: home
        for:
          minutes: 1

then if it is not fulfilled that one of the persons are not at home, action must be executed if the time is 23.30pm even though the above is not fulfilled

 condition: or
    conditions:
      - condition: time
        after: '23:50:00'
  action:
  - data:
      entity_id: switch.sonoff_light
    service: homeassistant.turn_off

here my mind says what man… how??? :exploding_head:

6

You’re trying to use a condition as a trigger. Also you’re not using the or condition properly, even if using a condition was correct in this case, which it isn’t.

Take a step back. There are two times when the light should be turned off, not one. So you need two triggers. One is time changing to 23:00:00, and the other is time changing to 23:30:00. Those are when you want to turn the light off.

The first trigger (i.e., 23:00:00) needs a condition, because at 23:00:00 the light should be turned off only if both people have been home for at least a minute at that point.

The second trigger (i.e., 23:30:00) doesn’t need a condition, because the light should be turned off at that time regardless.

The easiest way to implement this is with two automations. Here’s the first:

- id: 1
  alias: Auto-off lights at 23:00 if home
  trigger:
    platform: time
    at: '23:00:00'
  condition:
    - condition: state
      entity_id: person.jonh
      state: home
      for:
        minutes: 1
    - condition: state
      entity_id: person.dan
      state: home
      for:
        minutes: 1
  action:
    service: homeassistant.turn_off
    entity_id: switch.sonoff_light

Here’s the second:

- id: 2
  alias: Auto-off lights at 23:30
  trigger:
    platform: time
    at: '23:30:00'
  action:
    service: homeassistant.turn_off
    entity_id: switch.sonoff_light
7

so then, in what case i could use and & or …?
i thought that was an option execute all this triggers in just one automation. :-/

8

When it’s appropriate. There are many cases where that would be needed.

This could be done in one automation. But in this case the extra complexity probably doesn’t make it worth the effort, and would require the use of more advanced techniques. You should focus on the basics first.

9

sounds good for the case :slight_smile:
thanks!