Timers and automation groups

Configuration
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I found nice and quite simple Automatic switch-off light with cancel option which does the job - “Automate light on/off with optional cancellation timeout”.
However most of my HA programming happens on my phone in the front of TV, or on a bus, so console and vim are not really the option. And the example above is 2 timers and 3 automations. So I wonder if it is possible to:

  1. add timers from the UI
  2. put automations in groups (like scenes for multiple lights, for example)
    ?
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Why don’t you use packages to organize your system?

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I really do not understand the comment… Which package will let me add a timer from the HA web interface? Or what package did you mean?

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I’ve organize my automations, etc into python packages. Makes it easier for me to code on my tablet or phone as all the relevant objects for a topic are contained in a single file. But I use yaml and perhaps you do not.

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ah, ok, makes sense. Any good example of let’s say something similar to that “Automatic switch-off light with cancel option” just to get the idea? I use yaml periodically, in both automation.yaml and the UI but even then the whole automation cannot be edited as one thing in the UI - each trigger and each condition and each action is independent yaml :frowning:

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I don’t like the ui editor for that reason, things seem to be broken up in non-intuitive ways. I currently use IDE which is deprecated but allows me to code remotely and as I said, a package organization to minimize file shuffle. In this case the timers, automations, helper objects for ui display would all be in a single file which can easily be scrolled through.