Too many updates for ESPHome; too often

There is if you don’t use the addon, or create your own addon repo.

How would I use ESPHome without the addon? Without which addon?
Or do the repo thing?

I have a life outside of HA and esphome, I don’t know all of the terminology or everything else just like most people. The difference is I make an effort to learn instead of moaning about it. Esphome and HA are largely developed by users of the community, most of which have full time jobs and do this on the side and they do it for free so updates come when they come. They don’t all work in an office where they all have to have their monthly updates turned in by a deadline and some other department puts a bow on it and makes it nice and easy for you personally. Last I checked neither of these services cost money to use so you have 3 options. Embrace it, learn it and appreciate it, donate your own time and skills to improve it or go use Microsoft or Apple garbage where your feelings will be their top priority and you pay for that convenience.

Without the home assistant esphome addon, which is the way most people install it. You can install via docker and specify any version tag.

@Fallingaway24 Sure. Now nobody can say anything might be better or look for improvement, because people like you say they’re moaning.
Why are you moaning about my moaning?
Why are you moaning about Microsoft and Apple?
Asking me to donate time to help is like asking a butcher to help your dentist treat you.
Stop talking nonsense; help if you can and BECOME NICE ALREADY!

I installed the whole HAOS because it is the Recommended installation method and promised to be easiest to maintain.
No way to do dockers or anything else in there.
No way to chose a version to install.
Lots of things to like, some not so likeable seem like could be relatively easy to fix.

Do you not have another computer? You can run esphome on windows or linux, not just on HAOS. You don’t even need docker, I was just using that as an example.

Why would you want to?

At any rate, somewhere near the start of this thread are the links to install ESPHome on your PC. You can create a binary file there and flash it to your ESP device. You don’t need the ESPhome add-on, but it sure is convenient.

Because he wants to control the version of esphome he uses (keep up old chap!)

Another update to ESPHome just for:

2023.11.4

Really??? :crazy_face:

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Quit whining. See post 10.

If it ain’t broke. don’t fix it. Always update the ESPHome add-on when it’s available. If you have an ESP device that is working fine, just turn off the firmware entity for it. You won’t be bothered with almost daily ESPHome updates for that device.

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Quit griefing. See post 37

As as been explained ad-infinitum a method already exists.

Disable the individual device update sensors.

Install the add-on updates as they occur, noting any breaking changes or new features, which are generally only in the major release, or noting bug fixes in the minor releases that have the potential affect you. It’s a 30 second read at the most.

If there are none, and your devices are functioning well, skip updating your end devices and get on with something else.

Using this method I update my devices about every 4 to 6 months when I can be bothered and have the time. 2 to 3 updates of the devices a year (even with +40 of them) is hardly onerous. Takes 10 minutes or so. Certainly less time than I have spent in this topic.

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They whine that development and upgrades are made and you already know they’d whine if development stalled with no improvements to speak of. You cant win win people like this. They dont want to help with upgrades and development, instead they would rather complain about the free software they use because it inconvenienced them. Who doesnt just adore these ungrateful people?

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Yes, ship often and ship small. Check about modern software development/continuous development and don’t be afraid of the future!

4 updates in as many days? Someone not testing properly or something?

I agree too many updates. These days I wait a few days after the last update before updating my devices, only to find another update the next morning.

You don’t have to update. ESPHome handles firmware for 100s of devices. The updates could be for specific fixes that don’t impact any hardware that you own. I ignore the updates and just choose 1 day a month to perform them, specifically with ESPHome.

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Petro, missing the point. The more updates in a short period shows lack of planning, testing or something else or all the above and there is no excuse for it. It shows there is no quality control or lack there of.

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No it does not. It shows active development and lack of testers. Just like HA. ESPhome is a separate beast as well, because each version contains the code that is pushed to devices. If there’s an issue on a single device and there’s a fix, then the whole code base updates.

If you don’t like it, use tasmota or some other open source code DIY firmware deployment mechanism.

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