Follow up: after performing some tests I found out that the bulb only leaves the z2m network when I pair it with the ikea remote. This is true for both the old two button on/off remote and the new 4 button remote for color bulbs.
The remote I successfully paired using TouchLink (without bulb leaving existing z2m network) was this: https://www.elektroimportoren.no/namron-zigbee-4-kanal-bryter-k8/4512703/Product.html&gad_source=1
But I don’t have any issues with the namron switches. On the contrary, this works as expected. The ikea switches are problematic to me, as they kick out the tradfri bulbs from HA/z2m when pairing to the bulb.
I meant with the IKEA switches.
Can you explain in more detail? I don’t understand. I see from your screenshot you have added a namron light switch in home assistant. Are you suggesting I should bind the ikea switch with home assistant? What is then the procedure to directly pair the switch to the bulb?
Sure. You can configure binding through Z2M, which allows you to directly bind devices together. They will still report the states to Z2M, so you won’t “feel” any difference. The big benefit is that you can use your device controls even if HA / Z2M is down. It’s explained here.
Great, that sounds exactly as what I want! Thanks for explaining. And if I ever remove the bulb and switch from my z2m network, they are still bound directly to each other?
I would assume so, but I’ve never tested it over time, just tested turning Z2M off and the controls still worked perfectly.
This is getting a bit Tradfri specific but maybe there’s help to have…
The z2m docs state this about one of my Ikea remotes:
below 2.3.075: suppports binding to groups only.
2.3.075 and greater: supports binding to devices only
My remote has fw version 2.2.010 and therefore belongs in the first description, only binding to groups. But is this some z2m restriction? Because certainly this remote was bought as a kit with a bulb and they were directly paired.
I did successfully pair the remote in z2m and tried the bind options as you suggested. But I’m confused to why there are already two “bindings” where I can’t change the Endpoints or Destination. There’s a third input where I can input my own Destination, but unsure if I need to choose any other clusters than OnOff and LvlCtrl because those are the only features I use?
Most IKEA devices support OTA firmware updates, you could do that if you’re missing functionality supported in later firmware versions than the one you are running. Can’t help you with the rest, I’m not familiar with the IKEA stuff only use a couple of bulbs from them.
Wow, got it working, thank you very much!
Hi, can you explain your stepts in detail? I tried this approach in April and it hasn’t worked for me.
In the meantime I’ve switched back to the Tradfri Gateway and use HA Zigbee only for other stuff, but not light.
But i might give it another shot if you got it workin!
Do you experience a fast battery draining in the remotes connected to HA zigbee? This was another reason i switched back to the ikea gateway, i had to change the batteries every few weeks. With the ikea gateway they last years.
Hi sorry for my late response.
Have you found the menu in the screenshots, and what are your trying when you do a falling attempt? I realized that the last endpoint config fields are there too make new entries…
Can this also be done with ZHA?
Just for the record, I had problem binding a E2201 to a zigbee group (with 2 LED lights in it).
The problem was that before clicking the “bind” button, I had to wake the remote by repeatedly clicking a remote button until he got all binding commands.
With this trick, I could:
The remote can control the lights even with HA down.
HA can control the lights (with the Adaptive Lighting integration).
Hope this helps.
Not working on my side trying to bind IKEA Tradfri or Styrbar buttons to Tradfri light bulbs through ZHA.
Like I said earlier in this thread, I don’t use IKEA stuff so can’t help you with that. It would probably be helpful for others that could help you if you give some more information on what you have tried and what errors you are facing.
I tried what is written here and in that other thread: Can IKEA Lamp be controlled directly by remote and connect to ZHA?
Green check mark appear then disappear after a second.
I used to have this working in my Hubitat setup (4 Tradfri bulbs grouped) and directly controlled by the 5 button remote which made the bulb group fully controllable by Hubitat but the remote could only do On/Off and Brightness Increase/Decrease, no colour change.
Now trying to get this fully working under HA/Z2M and haven’t gotten there completely yet.
I’ve actually got 2 bathrooms with 2 quasi identical setups:
So questions are: is there a way to reinstate group control from HA/Z2M for Bathroom 1 without giving up direct control? Or is there a way, via this blueprint, to cycle through the colours for the group of bulbs without having to call on specific scenes?
