Trigger action when Shelly Qubino Zwave Shutter opens

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Hi together,

What is my situation:

I set up two Shelly zwave shutters for two different shutters. I can control both of them correctly via the HomeAssistant UI. The state of the shutters is also reflected propperly as open when they are open and closed when they are closed.
So I assume they are set up correctly. I have only for one of the shelly shutters a physical switch attached to it, so I wanted to try an automation that does open the other one when i open the first one by using the switch.

What did I try:
I set up an automation that opens shutter b when shutter a is opening and shutter b is closed.

alias: my alias
description: ""
triggers:
  - device_id: 1ecbf14ed9a6f820d9a0688c1d7be66f
    domain: cover
    entity_id: b91f15ed2117935662fb56f0c8753d5d
    type: opening
    trigger: device
conditions:
  - condition: device
    device_id: 950a1f5e462389e5260ab905982c041f
    domain: cover
    entity_id: f5061d291300c2525ccbfeb913573d36
    type: is_closed
    enabled: true
actions:
  - device_id: 950a1f5e462389e5260ab905982c041f
    domain: cover
    entity_id: f5061d291300c2525ccbfeb913573d36
    type: open
mode: single

But when i tried to Open shutter A, only shutter A opens. Shutter B does nothing.

Could anybody help me? :frowning: is there a known issue with some events of the shelly shutters?

Edit:

I tried to use a different event. I used the open event of Shutter A. This works, but not as initially intended.
With this automation shutter B starts to open after shutter A finished opening.

alias: R Wz auf wenn R kĂĽche ab
description: ""
triggers:
  - device_id: 1ecbf14ed9a6f820d9a0688c1d7be66f
    domain: cover
    entity_id: b91f15ed2117935662fb56f0c8753d5d
    type: opened
    trigger: device
conditions:
  - condition: device
    device_id: 950a1f5e462389e5260ab905982c041f
    domain: cover
    entity_id: f5061d291300c2525ccbfeb913573d36
    type: is_closed
    enabled: true
actions:
  - device_id: 950a1f5e462389e5260ab905982c041f
    domain: cover
    entity_id: f5061d291300c2525ccbfeb913573d36
    type: open
mode: single

So I assume there is No Event “opening” emitted by shellys shutters. Is there a way to add events or would i just have to make the Trigger more complicated? Something like “Power consumption Changes and state is closed”? This would probably mean that it’s opening.

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The best way to accomplish this is to setup an association. It’s alot easier to setup than a automation and it’s a lot more responsive because one device is directly controlling the other device. You can view a devices association capabilities by click on the groups tab then clicking add and expanding the available options.

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Thank you for the suggestion. Grouping is nice and works well when using the lovelace ui to control the covers, but the group didn’t have an impact on how the covers behave when using the physical switch. Did I understand something wrong?
I also don’t see an option that could be helpful for this. I can’t add Screenshots unfortunately since its not allowed for new users apparently.

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Grouping has nothing to do with Z-Wave Associations. They are 2 different things. Groups in home assistant let you group similar devices together so that you can control them all at once from home assistant. Any device can be added to a group regardless of the protocol it uses. Z-Wave Associations are specific to Z-Wave devices. The main benefit when using associations is that one z-wave device talks directly with another z-wave device without going through the hub. This is useful if you want to do something like setup a 3 way. Not all devices support the same associations.

To Setup Z-Wave Associations you need to use Z-Wave JS UI.

  1. When you first open Z-Wave JS UI you should be on the control panel page
  2. Click the down arrow next to the node ID
  3. Click on the groups tab and you will see something like this

Screenshot 2024-12-07 at 22-30-09 Z-Wave JS UI

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Thank you! This worked out quite well.
I just learned that grouping is built in into zwave devices.
You helped me a lot :slight_smile: