Trigger automation when Insteon switch is turned on/off locally

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I’m looking for a way to trigger automation when an Insteon switch is turned on/off but only when it’s done so physically/locally, at the switch.

Can anyone help?

Thanks!

-Mike

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Include these conditions in your automation:

conditions:
  - condition: template
    value_template: '{{ trigger.to_state.context.id != none }}'
  - condition: template
    value_template: '{{ trigger.to_state.context.parent_id == none }}'
  - condition: template
    value_template: '{{ trigger.to_state.context.user_id == none }}'

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Awesome, I’ll try it tonight. Thank you!

4

I believe Insteon switches report their physical activity (press/release button) as events. If so, you can use an Event Trigger to detect the events (i.e. detect when someone operates the physical device).

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No luck. It won’t let me include conditions: plural. Says “Message malformed: extra keys not allowed @ data[‘conditions’]”. If I change it to condition: like this, it accepts it but the action doesn’t happen. Maybe I’m using the wrong trigger?

alias: Garage Light On by Switch
description: ""
trigger:
  - platform: device
    type: turned_on
    device_id: 6256aaee88409f1e391f4977fa966ed4
    entity_id: aaaa9f97c56a23874e3d8798d9223afc
    domain: switch
condition:
  - condition: template
    value_template: "value_template: '{{ trigger.to_state.context.id != none }}'"
  - condition: template
    value_template: "value_template: '{{ trigger.to_state.context.parent_id == none }}'"
  - condition: template
    value_template: "value_template: '{{ trigger.to_state.context.user_id == none }}'"
action:
  - service: input_boolean.turn_on
    data: {}
    target:
      entity_id: input_boolean.garage_light_on_by_button
mode: single
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You’re using the wrong conditions.

Compare what you created:

  - condition: template
    value_template: "value_template: '{{ trigger.to_state.context.id != none }}'"
  - condition: template
    value_template: "value_template: '{{ trigger.to_state.context.parent_id == none }}'"
  - condition: template
    value_template: "value_template: '{{ trigger.to_state.context.user_id == none }}'"

to what tom_l recommended:

conditions:
  - condition: template
    value_template: '{{ trigger.to_state.context.id != none }}'
  - condition: template
    value_template: '{{ trigger.to_state.context.parent_id == none }}'
  - condition: template
    value_template: '{{ trigger.to_state.context.user_id == none }}'
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Doh, that was a dumb mistake. Ok, it’s working…Mostly. Usually the automation triggers immediately. Sometimes, randomly, it seems to miss the message. The light turns on locally but the automation doesn’t trigger. If I press on or off again, sometimes 2-3 times, it eventually triggers.

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You may want to consider experimenting with what I had suggested and see if it behaves better.

Insteon events

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Yeah, I’ll check that out too. Thanks.

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No event seems to go to insteon.button_on when any Insteon switch is turned on/off. It looks like it might just be for Mini-Remotes.