Triggering but within the threshold - so shouldn't

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Hi all,

Read up that triggers occur once the threshold is crossed i.e. if you are within the threshold then no trigger occurs - which is what I want.

A shelly plug triggers an automation because of a variation in its wattage draw. But it’s below the threshold so shouldn’t ? ( unless I am misunderstanding triggers ).
Checked the doc’s and I think I’m correct in what I am assuming.

You can see at around 3:30am the current draw changes which does trigger the automation based on the numeric state of ‘power’ - but it’s below the threshold…

Any help on something that’s probably very simple appreciated.

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Post the automation trace instead

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What you have explained about how you think triggers work is actually true for a numeric state trigger.

But it looks like you aren’t using a numeric state trigger but a device trigger? it’s hard to tell from a screenshot of a trigger in the UI.

that’s why everyone is told to not post screenshots but to post the actual yaml of the automation.

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Ah!, apologies didn’t realise screenshots not the best.

id: '1732198102780'
alias: Lightwell with projector ON
description: ''
triggers:
  - type: power
    device_id: 699b544b6005ceae8b77bf4abc73b487
    entity_id: 587b03b79a57c0eee1ad63bfbc30353c
    domain: sensor
    trigger: device
    below: 50
conditions:
  - condition: sun
    before: sunrise
    after: sunset
actions:
  - type: turn_on
    device_id: ae59693df7ee1b2a5a89c87f92da4315
    entity_id: f2a759b6276ff30344d5346c990cf14a
    domain: switch
mode: single
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Ok . I’v changed it to the power entity of the Shelly switch as a numeric state .

But I’m confused ! What is Shelly power of the device if not a numeric state ???

Naturally device.power I would assume is a numeric .
But now I have
Entity.power as a numeric state ( which I assume is correct ) .

Clearly I’m confused :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

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The state of any entity is a string. If you want to convert it to a number (a float type) and compare it to another number, that is exactly what the numeric state trigger does.

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Thanks I see .
Assumed as power is a ‘value’ would be a numeric - so it’s a string - got it !
Still seems strange to have 2 values for the same thing when a function could convert string to numeric though….
Appreciate the explanation