Turn on light and off light if no motion for X seconds

Razer · January 23, 2023, 6:02pm

I’ve set up an automation to turn on a light if there is motion and off if there’s none,
it seems to work but stops working as soon as i try to add a delay to the turning off of the light

Any idea on how to fix it?

alias: Luci cucina
description: ""
trigger:
  - platform: state
    entity_id:
      - binary_sensor.lumi_lumi_motion_ac02_iaszone
condition: []
action:
  - choose:
      - conditions:
          - type: is_motion
            condition: device
            device_id: 9d695aebdef65308a0585ff5941b81bc
            entity_id: binary_sensor.lumi_lumi_motion_ac02_iaszone
            domain: binary_sensor
          - type: is_illuminance
            condition: device
            device_id: 9d695aebdef65308a0585ff5941b81bc
            entity_id: sensor.lumi_lumi_motion_ac02_illuminance
            domain: sensor
            below: 60
        sequence:
          - type: turn_on
            device_id: f73c5c97a4f0f2b6189d230a21c9b09a
            entity_id: switch.sonoff_10014b7427
            domain: switch
          - type: turn_on
            device_id: 62148fdbba8e02d3bf0d99600524e7f8
            entity_id: switch.sonoff_10014b25ee
            domain: switch
      - conditions:
          - type: is_no_motion
            condition: device
            device_id: 9d695aebdef65308a0585ff5941b81bc
            entity_id: binary_sensor.lumi_lumi_motion_ac02_iaszone
            domain: binary_sensor
            for:
              hours: 0
              minutes: 0
              seconds: 45
        sequence:
          - type: turn_off
            device_id: f73c5c97a4f0f2b6189d230a21c9b09a
            entity_id: switch.sonoff_10014b7427
            domain: switch
          - type: turn_off
            device_id: 62148fdbba8e02d3bf0d99600524e7f8
            entity_id: switch.sonoff_10014b25ee
            domain: switch
mode: single

boheme61 · January 23, 2023, 6:26pm

? “seems to” ?, does it work ?.. in real
… i wonder because i have some aqara motion sensors ( lumi ), which does have “states” … But it’s not like “is_motion/is_no_motion”
Beside it has a default of about 45 seconds, so you just have to make 2 simple automation

1 if motion detected (and illlumn below 60) turn_on_light)
… after about 45 seconds the ( MY) Motion-sensor-Device will automatically “check” again
2 if no motion … turn of

Razer · January 23, 2023, 6:35pm

It works but only if i do not add a delay, i would rather have them in one single automation

boheme61 · January 23, 2023, 6:42pm

And how often (which interval) does your motion sensor have ?, maybe it’'s similar to mine approx. 45 second, so you only have to tell " if no motion detected / .turn of light "

What if, let’s say your Motion-Devices actually default “checks for motion” every 30-seconds ?

I don’t think you can use that " 45 second " condition like that

Razer · January 23, 2023, 6:45pm

Motion timeframe is set to 30 seconds on device, without any delay after 30 seconds the lights turn off, as soon as i add delay the automation stops working and light keep on

If i go to automation and then start it manually, the lights will turn off, so it seems like it’s an issue with the kind of structure of the automation

I would like to add another delay to the automation so i can test the best delay not to have lights shut on me while i’m still in the room

boheme61 · January 23, 2023, 6:56pm

It’s not a delay you have there, it’s a condition for the is_no_motion ( i.e if No motion for 45 second , but you say that you can ( or there is a default

so after 30 seconds, it checks for motion/illumn again

I don’t know ur device, but i think you have to " if-motion/illum-ok … turn on light for x seconds

And Skip the if_no_motion

boheme61 · January 23, 2023, 7:01pm

What makes it turn off ? … is the motion-sensor integrated in the “lights”, or does the motion-sensor send a “turn_of_light” after 30 seconds ?

Razer · January 23, 2023, 7:10pm

The motion sensor state changes to no movement present, then the consecutive action is for HA to shut the lights

Having them separated like this seems to work now, but i would like to have both in a single automation if possible

alias: Luci OFF cucina
description: ""
trigger:
  - platform: state
    entity_id:
      - binary_sensor.lumi_lumi_motion_ac02_iaszone
    to: "off"
    for:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 0
      seconds: 45
condition: []
action:
  - type: turn_off
    device_id: f73c5c97a4f0f2b6189d230a21c9b09a
    entity_id: switch.sonoff_10014b7427
    domain: switch
  - type: turn_off
    device_id: 62148fdbba8e02d3bf0d99600524e7f8
    entity_id: switch.sonoff_10014b25ee
    domain: switch
mode: single

On

alias: Luci ON cucina
description: ""
trigger:
  - platform: state
    entity_id:
      - binary_sensor.lumi_lumi_motion_ac02_iaszone
    to: "on"
condition: []
action:
  - type: turn_on
    device_id: f73c5c97a4f0f2b6189d230a21c9b09a
    entity_id: switch.sonoff_10014b7427
    domain: switch
  - type: turn_on
    device_id: 62148fdbba8e02d3bf0d99600524e7f8
    entity_id: switch.sonoff_10014b25ee
    domain: switch
mode: single

DiGibr02 · January 23, 2023, 7:17pm

This is how I do it and it works flawlessly. Hope this helps!

automation:
  - id: masterbathroom_lighting
    alias: "Master Bathroom Lighting"
    mode: restart

    trigger:
      - platform: state
        id: "motion"
        entity_id: binary_sensor.masterbathroom_motion
        to: "on"

      - platform: state
        id: "clear"
        entity_id: binary_sensor.masterbathroom_motion
        to: "off"
        for: "00:00:30"

      - platform: state
        id: "close"
        entity_id: binary_sensor.masterbathroom_door
        to: "off"

      - platform: state
        id: "open"
        entity_id: binary_sensor.masterbathroom_door
        to: "on"

    condition:
      - condition: state
        entity_id: input_boolean.masterbathroom_override
        state: "off"

    action:
      - choose:
          - conditions:
              - condition: trigger
                id: "motion"

              - condition: and
                conditions:
                  - condition: state
                    entity_id: sensor.home_mode
                    state:
                      - "early morning"

                  - condition: state
                    entity_id: binary_sensor.workday
                    state: "on"

            sequence:
              - scene: scene.masterbathroom_morning

          - conditions:
              - condition: trigger
                id: "motion"

              - condition: and
                conditions:
                  - condition: state
                    entity_id: sensor.home_mode
                    state:
                      - "early morning"

                  - condition: state
                    entity_id: binary_sensor.workday
                    state: "off"

            sequence:
              - scene: scene.masterbathroom_weekend

          - conditions:
              - condition: trigger
                id: "motion"

              - condition: state
                entity_id: sensor.home_mode
                state:
                  - "morning"
                  - "afternoon"
                  - "evening"

            sequence:
              - scene: scene.masterbathroom_day

          - conditions:
              - condition: trigger
                id: "motion"

              - condition: state
                entity_id: sensor.home_mode
                state:
                  - "bedtime"
                  - "sleep"
                  - "late night"

            sequence:
              - scene: scene.masterbathroom_night

          - conditions:
              - condition: trigger
                id: "clear"

              - condition: state
                entity_id: binary_sensor.masterbathroom_door
                state: "on"

            sequence:
              - service: light.turn_off
                entity_id: light.masterbathroom_lights

          - conditions:
              - condition: trigger
                id: "close"

            sequence:
              - service: input_boolean.turn_on
                entity_id: input_boolean.masterbathroom_occupied

              - service: switch.turn_on
                entity_id: switch.fragrance_thing

          - conditions:
              - condition: trigger
                id: "open"

            sequence:
              - service: input_boolean.turn_off
                entity_id: input_boolean.masterbathroom_occupied

              - service: switch.turn_off
                entity_id: switch.fragrance_thing`Preformatted text`

boheme61 · January 23, 2023, 7:59pm

Razer:

trigger:
  - platform: state
    entity_id:
      - binary_sensor.lumi_lumi_motion_ac02_iaszone
    to: "off"
    for:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 0
      seconds: 45
condition: []
action:
  - type: turn_off

So did you check how long time this took ?

so if im right, your intentions in to turn of the light, 45 seconds “after” the motion-sensor state changed to “no Motion” , which it might do 30 seconds, after it first detected motion … sorry im lost

In specific as you above have a condition “illumin below 60” for turning on the light, and you didn’t specify that 30-second interval you mentioned above, and your choice of words just makes me drops out/redraw
(When you latest showed 2 other separate automations, you again used “They seems to work”)

Move around, get out, or have the light turned on for X-seconds

Razer · January 23, 2023, 8:13pm

This fixed it

Key was adding delay to the trigger rather than the action

realm · January 24, 2023, 12:44am

I use this on my top floor.
1 automation to turn on light.
And the one below to turn off.
Pay attention at “mode:restart”
This will “restart” will not turn off light while there is motion.

alias: Zolder verlichting uit
description: “”
trigger:

type: no_motion
platform: device
device_id: e05553bf1deb6d95ea48b4c349b6ef50
entity_id: binary_sensor.zolder_sensor_motion
domain: binary_sensor
for:
hours: 0
minutes: 3
seconds: 0
milliseconds: 0
condition: []
action:
type: turn_off
device_id: 55e134e83ca8518b82bafac1c9a4c69d
entity_id: light.switch_aqara_light
domain: light
mode: restart

Razer · March 5, 2023, 4:45am

I thought i had it fixed, but seems like after lights turn on, they turn off while motion is still found by the sensor. Seems like the automation is successfully triggered, but action is not performed

Here is current automation, what am i missing?

alias: Movimento cucina
description: ""
trigger:
  - type: motion
    platform: device
    device_id: 9d695aebdef65308a0585ff5941b81bc
    entity_id: binary_sensor.lumi_lumi_motion_ac02_iaszone
    domain: binary_sensor
  - type: motion
    platform: device
    device_id: 7ec5496ee2f1f04e2326b1216f226aec
    entity_id: binary_sensor.lumi_lumi_motion_ac02_iaszone_2
    domain: binary_sensor
  - type: no_motion
    platform: device
    device_id: 9d695aebdef65308a0585ff5941b81bc
    entity_id: binary_sensor.lumi_lumi_motion_ac02_iaszone
    domain: binary_sensor
    for:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 0
      seconds: 10
  - type: no_motion
    platform: device
    device_id: 7ec5496ee2f1f04e2326b1216f226aec
    entity_id: binary_sensor.lumi_lumi_motion_ac02_iaszone_2
    domain: binary_sensor
    for:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 0
      seconds: 10
condition: []
action:
  - choose:
      - conditions:
          - condition: or
            conditions:
              - type: is_motion
                condition: device
                device_id: 9d695aebdef65308a0585ff5941b81bc
                entity_id: binary_sensor.lumi_lumi_motion_ac02_iaszone
                domain: binary_sensor
              - type: is_motion
                condition: device
                device_id: 7ec5496ee2f1f04e2326b1216f226aec
                entity_id: binary_sensor.lumi_lumi_motion_ac02_iaszone_2
                domain: binary_sensor
          - type: is_illuminance
            condition: device
            device_id: 9d695aebdef65308a0585ff5941b81bc
            entity_id: sensor.lumi_lumi_motion_ac02_illuminance
            domain: sensor
            below: 60
          - condition: device
            type: is_off
            device_id: f73c5c97a4f0f2b6189d230a21c9b09a
            entity_id: switch.sonoff_10014b7427
            domain: switch
          - condition: device
            type: is_off
            device_id: 62148fdbba8e02d3bf0d99600524e7f8
            entity_id: switch.sonoff_10014b25ee
            domain: switch
        sequence:
          - type: turn_on
            device_id: f73c5c97a4f0f2b6189d230a21c9b09a
            entity_id: switch.sonoff_10014b7427
            domain: switch
          - type: turn_on
            device_id: 62148fdbba8e02d3bf0d99600524e7f8
            entity_id: switch.sonoff_10014b25ee
            domain: switch
      - conditions:
          - condition: and
            conditions:
              - type: is_no_motion
                condition: device
                device_id: 9d695aebdef65308a0585ff5941b81bc
                entity_id: binary_sensor.lumi_lumi_motion_ac02_iaszone
                domain: binary_sensor
                for:
                  hours: 0
                  minutes: 0
                  seconds: 10
              - type: is_no_motion
                condition: device
                device_id: 7ec5496ee2f1f04e2326b1216f226aec
                entity_id: binary_sensor.lumi_lumi_motion_ac02_iaszone_2
                domain: binary_sensor
                for:
                  hours: 0
                  minutes: 0
                  seconds: 10
        sequence:
          - type: turn_off
            device_id: f73c5c97a4f0f2b6189d230a21c9b09a
            entity_id: switch.sonoff_10014b7427
            domain: switch
          - type: turn_off
            device_id: 62148fdbba8e02d3bf0d99600524e7f8
            entity_id: switch.sonoff_10014b25ee
            domain: switch
mode: restart

Rofo · March 5, 2023, 10:43am

I use this for my kitchen, works perfectly:

alias: Kitchen - Motion Lights
description: ""
trigger:
  - platform: state
    entity_id:
      - binary_sensor.kitchen_motion_sensor_group
    to: "on"
condition:
  - condition: numeric_state
    entity_id: sensor.lumi_lumi_motion_ac02_illuminance
    below: input_number.kitchen_illuminance_threshold
action:
  - if:
      - condition: state
        entity_id: light.kitchen_light_group
        state: "off"
    then:
      - service: light.turn_on
        data:
          brightness_pct: 100
          rgb_color:
            - 255
            - 255
            - 255
          transition: 1
        target:
          entity_id: light.kitchen_light_group
  - wait_for_trigger:
      - platform: state
        entity_id:
          - binary_sensor.kitchen_motion_sensor_group
        from: "on"
        for:
          hours: 0
          minutes: 2
          seconds: 0
  - service: light.turn_off
    data: {}
    target:
      entity_id: light.kitchen_light_group
mode: restart