Unable to delete helper

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Hi there.
I am unable to delete multiple helpers from my HA instance. I dont want them to show up anywhere. Delete everything. In best case every old event stored in the database. These currently show up in “Dev Tools” → “States”, but not in → “Statistics” I get the message “This entity (‘input_boolean.biomull_notify’) does not have a unique ID, therefore its settings cannot be managed from the UI” (I have 4 entities that do that)

I also have one entity that doesnt show in either “States” nor “Statistics”. It has a red symbol (exclamation mark) in the “Settings” → “Devices and Entities” → “Helpers” list. I am not able to access any settings of said helper

I would like to avoid editing the DB itself manually because of the obvious risks. I already tried using the Recorder PURGE_ENTITIES service. Didn’t work. Tried this:

service: recorder.purge_entities
target:
  entity_id: input_boolean.biomull_notify

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did you try purging the recorder?

set the days to 0

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I’ve got the same issue with 7 helpers.

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How do I prevent the purge from deleting everything and why exactly would “days: 0” help?

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Try going directly to the page using:

http://homeassistant.local:8123/config/helpers

and delete the helper from there.

I apologize, I miss understood you and thought you were just seeing remnants of the helper. I didn’t realize they were still appearing on the helper entity page.

click settings

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hit delete

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Let me know if that works

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Entities in the states list are aggressively cached in the browser (and companion app). It’s likely you’ve already deleted them but they’re just stuck in your browser’s cache. Clear the cache, or if you’re not sure how to do that (or aren’t sure you did it properly) open an incognito window in your browser and log into your home assistant instance. My guess is you won’t find those entities.

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That was my second suggested step, thank you!

They’re stating they are in the entities list so that means they haven’t been deleted (IMO) from HA.

Amazing how much HA data is stored in your browser cache. Without frontend reloads and cache clearing you may think a change never took effect.

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Sorry for the late reply on the topic was quite busy the last few days…
When going directly to http://homeassistant.local:8123/config/helpers the “biomüll_notify” is actually gone. thats goot to see.
For the helper with the red exclamation point i cant say the same. it still shows. even in incognito. when clicking the helper I get this view:
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notice how I am not able to cick on the cog icon you see on yours. when i click on any other helper i also see that icon.

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That is odd, let me look into that. Thanks for the follow up and images!

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Do you have an adblocker running on your browser?

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Even though this is a rather old post, I’ll put this here. I encountered about the same problem as indicated above (not being able to delete a helper, not even being able to change it’s settings). With the help of this “reminder” for adblockers I found out that disabling “PrivacyBadger” and “Ghostery” in Google Chrome did the trick.

Upon “trusting” the Home Assistant url and refreshing the page all options of helpers and the delete button re-appeared. I forgot how aggresive these addons can act…

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Having the same problem. I need to delete some helpers that i created for testning, and i also want to change the settings for some. But none of this is possible when i click the gear icon up to the right. The page it forwards me to is all blank.
Might work in a browser, but it must work in the app?

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Try entering the helper address directly in your browser like this

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That was the method I used to circumvent the blank page.

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I have been trying to delete two helpers for several days and it is totally impossible, nothing works, not even accessing from Chrome, Edge, Opera, or the mobile app, not even deleting cache or ctrl+F5, not even an incognito tab, not even going directly to http://homeassistant.local:8123/config/helpers
I am totally desperate with this, I hope they fix it soon or I’m going to go crazy.

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I was in the same boat as you and, to be honest, it was driving me insane ! I ended up disabling half of my add-ons, until I found a fix.

I believe you did the same thing as me and copied the values for your “start” and “end” value from here, and kept the quotes at the beginning and the end of each string, eg “{{ today_at(‘06:00’) }}” rather than {{ today_at(‘06:00’) }}.

I did just that and figured the UI would throw me an error if the quotes weren’t needed, but it accepted the template with the quotes and I think that’s exactly what causes the error.

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HOWEVER, simply removing the quotes from your start/end templates is not enough, you also have to restart HomeAssistant for it to take effect, and only then will it be able to load the whole pop-up, including the delete option.

I hope this solves the issue on your side !

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woooowwwwww this works, and even the helper itself works, and now has an entity name. Thank you very much, my friend!

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