Unanswered card_mod question from closed 2025.1 release Blog

[Mariusthvdb (Marius)]

Continuing the discussion from 2025.1: Backing Up into 2025!:

@klogg

I have to say that in all the last (about) seven years this is the first time I’ve been ‘afraid’ to upgrade. In the past I’ve seen breaking changes that made me wait and not do so immediately and a couple of times I have wished I had waited but I’ve never consciously not upgraded within at least a week.

The reason for the ‘fear’ was primarily the backup issues, which whilst I don’t agree with the direction I am now totally happy won’t directly affect me, but I am concerned about the stories of HACS ‘breaking’ and of the problems I have seen reported with card-mod which for me would be a massive issue.

My problem is that here is so much noise around this release that finding details on specific issues is hard - and I don’t mean noise in a derogatory sense, more like being in a room full of people and not being able to find the conversation that interests you.

I’ve said my bit about the comms from ‘on-high’ but I do think that a lot of the noise could have been prevented by it being quicker and better.

The backup question is huge but whilst everyone’s view is legitimate, really only a few unique points have been made in the 1200 posts, to the detriment of other issues, concerns and, let’s not forget, favourable comments (e.g. zoom and pan for charts).

So…

Any guidance on card-mod would be hugely well received (just where best to look for answers, I don’t expect hand holding!) as well as any views on HACS e.g. are those with issues outliers in the same way that it happens with some things on every release?

And yes, I see the irony that I can always revert from my automation created backups but frankly, backup restore is never a good planned-for option.

Since the release blog was surprisingly closed before I reached the last post in it, I couldn’t post an answer to your question regarding card_mod.

so here’s my experience:
I was one of the first updaters to card-mod 3.5.0, which now is retracted, and had some issues with it (opened in the repo), but have now managed all of that, still on 3.5.0

however, this is not the recommended strategy for all…

so if you are still on 3.4.3, you will experience several incompatibilities with HA 2025.1

Thomas updated card_mod to 3.4.4, which fixes all of the changes (in fact it was only 1…) brought about by HA 2025.1

nothing should withhold you from updating.

But: updating either of them requires you to update both, as 3.4.4 is incompatible with HA 2024.x (because of that 1 single change), and HA 2025.x is incompatible with 3.4.3

on HACS:
none of the reported issues have been experienced in my setup. Not sure what brings people to say it was broken.

[parautenbach (Pieter Rautenbach)]

@Mariusthvdb

Thomas updated card_mod to 3.4.4, which fixes all of the changes (in fact it was only 1…) brought about by HA 2025.1

Albeit more brief, I did say to klogg to update to 3.4.4 on the release thread. I was brief, because the information was already available.

@Mariusthvdb

on HACS:
none of the reported issues have been experienced in my setup. Not sure what brings people to say it was broken.

I don’t know why the issue affected only some installations, but mine was. It wasn’t related to 2025.1 though, as my HACS broke being on 2024.12.4. I think I posted a link to this on the release thread too. Basically, it had to do with listing the Music Assistant repo in HACS.

[klogg]

Thanks, I really appreciate the effort to reply and the details you provide.

Both of you that is but Mariusthvdb especially for creating a new post.

[klogg]

Just to add a happy ending, I upgraded everything and all appears to be working properly.
Thanks again!

[Mariusthvdb (Marius)]

great! I knew you could do it