USB Boot on Raspberry Pi 4

[Jpsy (Jörg Wagner)]

@JorgeMaTeixeira yes, this is a known interference!
Unfortunately USB 3.0 signals can interfere with radio transmissions in the 2.4 GHz band. This may affect Bluetooth, Wifi and Zigbee communication.

What you can try to do is using better cables for USB 3.0 and/or try to move any communicating adaptors (like Zigbee sticks) as far away as possible from the Pi and its USB 3 ports using a USB male/female cable. I would also connect such sticks to the USB 2 ports to limit interference of the stick with the signal on its own cable (although the 3.0 ports should switch back to USB 2 protocol on such sticks).

[Jpsy (Jörg Wagner)]

I finally found that the long boot times in my setup were a result of the JMicron JMS583 bridge chip in my SATA adapter. After updating the adapter firmware booting times on USB 3.0 are down to 3 minutes. Read the full story here:

HassOS does not support RPI 4 - 8GB

ATTENTION! There is a newer version of the following step-by-step guide in the Community Guides section: So the following text is outdated! Step by step guide to run HA on a RPi 4 8Gb with SSD boot Update the boot EEPROM firmware RPi 4 has a boot EEPROM (while RPi 3 did not!). You have to update that EEPROM to the latest firmware (2020-09-03) which enables USB boot. To update the EEPROM you have to temporarily install Raspberry OS. I used an SD card for this. The steps are described her…

[peetereczek]

I have tried to follow the steps, but didn’t managed to boot from USB. I had mmc0 timeouts only

[Jpsy (Jörg Wagner)]

Did you try one of the USB 2 ports?

[peetereczek]

I have tried USB 3.0 and USB 2.0 port as well. I’m using pny Elite Portable SSD with USB 3.0

[Jpsy (Jörg Wagner)]

I am using a Crucial BX500 SSD with a Sabrent SATA to USB 3 adapter (EC-SSHD) that is updated to the latest JMicron firmware. Works fine for me.

[Recte]

@Recte

I don’t know exactly what is wrong with it, but my SSD dit got power at boot time but had no activity with the latest eeprom. In other words, it was not accessible.

Like I wrote: ‘but my SSD dit got power at boot time but had no activity with the latest eeprom’

So somehow it was not accessible. I use a Philips FM24SS020P connected straight to the USB3 port.

@peetereczek: Have you tried these steps too? USB Boot on Raspberry Pi 4 - #76 by softwheat

[peetereczek]

Pi can boot from USB, I have flashed Rapsbian on USB Pendrive 16GB and it boots from it. It does not on with my SSD… So It seems that it’s SSD issue, or HassOS. I need to try with bigger USB Pendrive, maybe HassOS will boot from 64GB Pendrive

[Recte]

For what it’s worth, @Jpsy his SSD boots with EEPROM firmware 2020-09-03, mine doesn’t.
Mine boots with v2020.07.16-138a1. For me it was worth the try.

I haven’t investigated the difference between, the versions (yet), but am happy with the fact that I have a (working) solution for the problems that made me wanna move to the SSD.

[FluffyMonster (Fluffy)]

I have a Pi4 4Gb, Simplecom SATA dock (JMICRON JMS567 bridge) and Samsung 860 EVO SSD

It works well under raspbian 5.4.51-v7l+ Bootloader Sep 3 2020 after I added usb-storage.quirks=152d:0578:u to cmdline.txt

I have had no success with this configuration in trying to USB boot hassos_rpi4-4.13.img

Does the hassos kernel respect the usb-storage.quarks command?

Booting from SD Card
Starting start4.elf @ 0xfec00200 partition 0

U-Boot 2020.01 (Sep 09 2020 - 01:54:54 +0000)

DRAM: 3.9 GiB
RPI 4 Model B (0xc03112)
MMC: mmcnr@7e300000: 1, emmc2@7e340000: 0
In: serial
Out: serial
Err: serial
Net: Net Initialization Skipped

Booting from SSD
Starting start4.elf @ 0xfeb00200 partition 0

U-Boot 2020.01 (Sep 09 2020 - 01:54:54 +0000)

DRAM: 3.9 GiB

[prmfeddema (PascalF)]

Did anyone tested whether the 64bit version works with Zwave, Zigbee etc when booting from SSD? It tried but it seemed to fail…

[Vlad (Vladislav)]

Zigbee works fine. using Zigbee2mqtt addon. 10+ sensors.

[Recte]

For as far as I know, you need OS version 5.x for SSD boot, but correct me if I am wrong.

[Recte]

I have no issues other than USB3 interference which can be easily solved by:

1. using an USB extension cable for the Conbee II stick
2. using USB2 only

It basically has nothing to do with the SSD boot itself.

[peyrusse (Christian Peyrusse)]

Zwave works fine booting on SSD.

[prmfeddema (PascalF)]

It works fine now using an ssd is a relief

[cinsler78]

Using the manual on this https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=245931 page it was possible to achieve fast loading. In cmdline.txt added usb-storage.quirks=xxxx:yyyy:u, where xxxx and yyyy are the values of idVendor and idProduct, respectively

[Umbe (Umberto)]

Good afternoon ,
I am trying to move from an rpi3 running HA via usb stick to a new rpi4b 4gb , i bought a new usb stick , which i tried with kodi and boot without issues , on HA when i power up the rpi give me this msg

Then nothing appears and screen blank.
I tried 32 and 64 bit img but no luck at all.
Someone has any suggestion ?
Thanks

[Vlad (Vladislav)]

Umberto,

NIC card is down on PI4, based on screenshot.

[Umbe (Umberto)]

Thanks Vlad
i reboot via ssh , had kodi on with an ip , shall i just flag wait network before boot ?
Or is there any other setting to be applied ?
If i boot via raspbian i navigate.