Hello, great review. Where in the tado App can you Share the device / Handover to the HA Matter Controller…i cant find this option… Android…?
@luchtgitaar1 @kaihawaii In the tado app go to “settings” → “rooms and devices”. Then tap on the tado x thermostat. On the next screen, at the bottom, tap on “pair device”.
Got it. Thanks a lot
The integration of Tado X devices via Matter over Thread does not seem to work when using an Echo 4 as a Thread Border Router.
When I try to connect the devices to the Tado app first, it tells me that I need a Thread Border Router even though I have an Echo 4. Do I still have to explicitly mark the Echo 4 as a Thread Border Router in the Tado app? If so, how?
When I try to connect the devices to Home Assistant first, Home Assistant tells me that the device needs a Thread Border Router even though I have an Echo 4. My Echo 4 Thread network is also only displayed in Home Assistant as “Other network”, but not as “Preferred network”.
So I first connected the Tado X devices to the Echo 4 Thread network in the Alexa app, then shared the connection with Home Assistant. This worked, but as described by the thread author, I can no longer connect the devices to the Tado app.
Update:
The Tado support page states that currently only Apple devices work as non-Tado Thread Border routers.
However, @agners said that he had integrated the Tado X devices using a SkyConnect stick.
It is also working with nest hub devices as non-Tado Thread Border routers. That’s what I did. I have an android ecosystem.
I have now bought a SkyConnect Stick and after several restarts of the smartphone and factory resets of the Tado X devices, all devices could finally be set up.
By the way, I had to do this too: Pure HA+Thread, "Border Router required" - #16 by WallyR
So maybe it would have worked with the Echo 4 after all. But for me it’s okay that I’ve now bought a SkyConnect stick because I want to gradually get rid of the Echos and Alexa anyway.
As @agners has already mentioned, all the additional functions are missing. For me personally, the window open detection would be enough as a sensor. Everything else can also be built with automations or with Better Thermostat directly in Home Assistant.
Hi a question here. I was interested in changing the heating based on energy tariff. Tado heatpump optimizer X supports this with a subscription (a bit too much and don’t want to depend on the cloud). There is no machine learning yet in Home-assistant to do this task 
but maybe an automation could try to do this, but I guess it would be hard to optimize with an automation. If the temperature drops too much it cost more energy to warm up and other factors and comfort are hard to build into an automation.
My question is the control and sensor information good enough to setup/train a local ML network?
What are al the reading you can get from the Heating Pump?
I was before looking at Ngenic Tune - smart thermostat helps you save energy and money – Ngenic
But this has also depended on the cloud. You can do a onetime payment. But still if the service stops working than you have nothing.
Tado looks a better option now as it has some local support.
Installed the tado X today,
Tado app
Got it working with the openthread border router (sky connect) after some issues and restarts
But can’t share it with matter,
- no options in the app,
Anyone seen any solution for this?
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I have installed it from the native integration. In Home Assistant it does not let me control the temperature,
If it doesn’t even serve me for that.
I’ll return it to Amazon
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Is it possible to read the battery level when integrated with Home Assistant over Thread+Matter? That would be the only thing I’m missing, compared to the cloud.
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Hi, thanks for the great review.
I always like to be resilient in case if Home Assistant crashes.
If I use de Tado Bridge X with several smart valves, with full control in the tado app, can I then just share those to HA and control them fully (read/edit desired temperature, view all sensors) as well?
I just want to avoid relying 100% on HA and thus, don’t want to only rely on my thread stick connected to my server.
Thank you
aha aha aha, not relevant post
I made the thingy work! The hitch was the border router. It doesn’t “like” to be in a different room than the WIFI router. So, when the connection is uber good, it does its thing but, it takes about 20 minutes? Maybe more? And during this time you don’t have access onto the router, that’s what was confusing for me. I thought the bloody thing froze and each time I rebooted it but, it didn’t freeze, it was doing something and I just interrupted the process, that’s why I had such trouble. Once the border router was up and running, installing the rest of the paraphernalia, the smart thermostatic heads and the room thermostat, was a breeze.
But there is a major drawback to the Tado system – it’s not local. And without internet it doesn’t work… Anyone has an idea how to make it work locally?
Yes, and the customer service at Tado is atrocious. All and all, I reckon there must be a better system out there.
Thermostat requires cloud connectivity directly: Enabling NAT64 in the OpenThread Border Router add-on helped to get that going
This was the only issue i was having but after waiting a couple minutes and enabling it the thermostat showed as online in the app, about an hour later the firmware was updated.
Thanks for the great write-up
Any news on that topic?
Is it possible to reference the current temperature as a proper sensor?
I can only see Humidity listed under sensors.
Also, what’s the update frequency on temperature changes when connected through matter?
Many thanks!
Do you have the same result as me using the official tado integration: Tado integration - Add Support for tado X devices ? The home is added, but no devices.
@takenit2far you can use template sensors for this: with this code you can get it working:
{{ state_attr(‘climate.heizung_badezimmer’, ‘current_temperature’)|float }}
Does that mean the Tado X uses internet over Thread to update firmware, and that is why it needs to be connected? Or is Tado X still as cloud dependent as it used to be (aside from Homekit, which was equally limited). Because that was Tado’s worst downside with older models, and it seems it has gotten even worse if Thread/Matter won’t work without internet.
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Same for me. I just added them via matter to HA.
Yes, me too, but that is very limited unfortunately. Would be great if the integration maintainers could add support for the new tado X Accounts.