Vaillant/MultiMATIC integration

It seems the data is already there without making use of statistics. So this is the history card which presents all the values i am looking for. i may need to write and automation to check

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1.) When is the flowtemperature above (heating )
2.) Measure the time until flowtemperature is below (heating)
3.) Measure how often its heating ( see 1.)

This will allow me to see how efficient my settings are for my heatpump.

Exporting these values to compare daily, weekly, monthly statistics would be of great value

Rgds
Michael

@tgermain not sure if this has been discusses already in regards to day/night mode.

The Multimatic App allows to set the FAN Speed for Day/Night (On/Off) . Is this something which can be implemented.

MainScreen → Ventilation ( here you can toggle Day/Night) → Settings → Time Shedule Ventilation ( snapshot below )

This has already been discussed, this is something I can do, but this is not something I want to do. I don’t want to do it, first because there is no such interface in HA to do so and second because I want the functionalities to stick to “day to day usage”. For the same reason, there is no way to change the target temperature for day or night for a zone for example or there is no way to configure the time program of a zone or a room

Hi, i remeber the discussion. In case this makes it to a feature i can think of the following.

There are 6 Levels for Fan Speed:

  • set to 6 for xx min, when humidity is above %treshold
  • set to 4 for xx min, when there is motion in bathroom
  • set to 1 at night ( yes this can be done already be achieved )
  • set to 3 at night when outdoor temperature is above %treshold
  • set to 2 when humidity is above %treshold

So the flexebility is huge compared to 2 pre-configured statest and personally i use at least 3 different fan speeds during the week depending on certain condition.

However i understand that this is not a priority and certainly shouldnt break anything specific.

The Integration is great as it is !

Hi,

I’m new to home assistant and i have a problem with the climate entities from MultiMATIC. They are not visible in the entities list.

The logfile is showing an error:

2021-10-23 11:51:29 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.climate] Error while setting up multimatic platform for climate

Traceback (most recent call last):

File “/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/helpers/entity_platform.py”, line 249, in _async_setup_platform

await asyncio.shield(task)

File “/config/custom_components/multimatic/climate.py”, line 83, in async_setup_entry

rbr_zone = [zone for zone in zones_coo.data if zone.rbr][0]

IndexError: list index out of range

I have connected every VR 50 to an AREA

Does anyone know what could be going wrong?

Hello,

did you disable the VRC700 as thermostat ?
in the (technician menu) settings of the vrc700, you have to change

Thanks for your reply. I have a VCR720 thermostat and that one is in manual mode.

I changed the python code climate.py a bit to print some info to the logfile and it seems that I don’t have any zones. Any suggestions?

2021-10-23 15:43:22 INFO (MainThread) [custom_components.multimatic.climate] 0 zones_coo

2021-10-23 15:43:22 INFO (MainThread) [custom_components.multimatic.climate] 10 rooms_coo

This is quite strange. Does your installation working correctly ? (Does it heat a room when you ask for it ?).

As far as I know, ambisense system is using a “fake zone” which groups all the ambisense rooms. So the boiler “thinks” he heats a zone, but it actually heats where the valve is open. (This is how the integration knows if a room is heating or not).

Just to be sure, you are using the multimatic android/ios app ? If not, the integration is not (fully) compatible with sensoAPP.

If you’are using multimatic app, you can create an issue here: https://github.com/thomasgermain/vaillant-component/issues, I’ll have a look

Thomas, thank you for your answer.

Yes, my system is working and the system can heat a room when I ask for it through the multimatic app v.3.7.453

I will create an issue.

Thanks in advance for the support.

Hi, is anybody who get upgrade from Vaillant to new app version myVaillant ?
Now this app is available in Google Play and we can install it but can not upgrade before VR920 gateway is no upgrade FW.

Hello,

With my system (a heat pump) I get only integer consumption values. Is this realistic or a transmission error?

Frank

Hello,

What do you mean by “integer consumption” ?
Consumptions are reported as Wh (and not kWh),

are you sure? i also only get full kwh from the energy consumption sensors. sorry: i do get Wh but only in 1000 steps. and it is the same in the app. from what i see in the raw values, energy is one large integer that does not reset and HA only shows the delta per day.

what i recently noticed is, thwt HA only shows the consumption on the end of the day. so even when the number changes during the day iw ould not show up until 11pm or if i restart ha.

best regards

@tgermain Hello Thomas, i saw you released a new upgrade featuring a service call to set day/night ventilation level. Is this documented somewhere on how to use it? Couldnt find it on the ReadMePage on Github

Hello,

ah yeah forgot to update the doc, here it is: vaillant-component/README.md at master · thomasgermain/vaillant-component · GitHub

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Hello tgermain,

i have missed your answer.
what i observe is that i have a start of the heat pump 4 times a day and every time the consumed energy is 1 or 2 kwh. No digit, an interger value only. From my point of view this is unrealistic.
But i am not sure if this is a problem what comes from the Vailant system itself

Frank

Hi,

As I am planning to get a Sensohome thermostate and a VR 921 module soon, I read myself through possible Home Assistant solutions and landed upon here.
As far as I understand all Apps are going to be replaced by myVaillant-App sooner or later, including MultiMatic which is obviously supported by your solution and SensoApp which is not supported (which Sensohome thermostates need).

So supporting the MyVaillant App will result in enabling sensohome thermostates, right?
And whats the current state of migrating to myVaillant App on this project?

Thanks a lot for all your efforts,

Are you sure this is the consumed energy ? I think for heat pump, you also have the environmental yield.
Where did you see there is 1 or 2 kwh increase ? If you see the same in your vaillant app, I don’t think I can do something

Hi,

Indeed, senso is not supported.

There is no plan at my side to support myVaillant. As far as I know, migration should already be started, but my system (multimatic + ambisense) will only be migrated in 2023, so I hope somebody will do something before me :sweat_smile:

If there is an integration for myvaillant, you will be able to use it only when you migrated to myvaillant.

Hello Tgermain,

had not yet looked at this in the Multimatic app. There it is also like this. Only the times of the jumps do not fit. But I think it is a problem of Vaillant and not a problem of your integration.

In the following two diagrams with the temporal course of energy consumption (heating and hot water) and then the course of the temperature hot water tank and flow.

Frank

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