What are people using for garage doors?

I am in the process of builiding a new house and when i comes to garage door openers I was something that works with Home Assistant (or at least an add-on) I want to at least have a battery backup on the unit and would be nice if it was quiet. Everything else is a bonus.

Literally any garage door opener can be controlled by HA. How quiet they are depends on mechanical parts…

I have a roller shutter door. I use a candle to lubricate the channel the door rolls up to make it very quiet. Only have to wax it once a year or so. The 433mhz rolling code remote is silent.

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I guess I was looking more for what people were actually using. I currently have a Chamberlain with a belt and MyQ. I am fine with the noise levels. I feel burned by the MyQ portion. I haven’t had it hooked up to Home Assistant in years partly because I knew we would be moving and so I didn’t want to invest any money into it but now that I am in the process of building I was wondering what people were using.

Lovely :joy:

I think the challenge in the US is that Chamberlin has a gorilla sized presence in the market place, so it’s hard not to have to buy one. I don’t know of any other brands that are supporting open home automation standards either. Thankfully my new house came with a MyQ garage door opener that has the slightly older encryption, so I can use something like a Ratdgo or a Konnected.

And if you want to do a physical hack, here’s a device that combines a tilt sensor and a Matter device that physically pushes a button on your garage door opener. These are my favorite hacks, as it’s really hard to disable a device that pushes a button.

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These exist?

Any myQ compatible and esphome compatible device(Ratgdo and konnected included)

MyQ has gotten wind of the esp devices but I don’t think they’ve broken function yet. Just do not update or connect to WiFi.

EDIT
Ratgdo gives

Live state info(up/down/moving/direction moving)
Beam sensor state
Light state
Enable revoke learn
Delete remote
Various other detailed data

Leaves no guessing what’s happening with door.
New version adds laser for parking and I think mww or something to detect car oresence

I moved on from MyQ and went with a YoLink Garage Door Controller. Zero issues and I have had it installed since MyQ stopped working with HA. I have an old garage door opener, but I am pretty certain the YoLink would work with any door that can learn 3rd party controllers.

They have got wind of it, and they have completely broken functionality. The new Security 3.0 does not carry data on the wires at all which is what the ratgdo uses (and decrypted the communication to inject itself). It’s now an encrypted Bluetooth (I believe) over-the-air communication which makes it significantly more difficult to create a device that will control and expose the garage door opener.

I’m currently on a Security 2.0+ and I recently wondered the same thing, because there’s no way I am buying Chamberlain/Liftmaster (and their other brands) again - but purely because of their stance on openness (the opener itself seems pretty good).

I was looking at Genie, plus a hand full of others - I just looked up gdo’s that don’t use Security 3.0 or other proprietary communication methods, and are open to integrations like Home Assistant and Google Home. I didn’t bother going further into the research since I don’t need to at the moment, but from there it would just be researching which models interest you and what the reviews are and if you see anything online about problems integrating them with HA.

This is why I buy used, broken and refurb

New products work overtime to lock you out of device and into ecosystem

That said an opener is basic device. You can rip out controller and stick in esp with a few relays and gpio connected sensors.the motor and chassis is all you need

The cheapest and easiest option is to use an ESP board such as an ESP32 (best one to use as it also has Bluetooth) and connect a relay to it. use that relay to interface to the standard “dumb” control point on a regular garage door (the same place that a wired button connects to). Flash it with ESPhome.

I’m using Sonoff SV modules flashed with ESP to make my dumb garage doors smart.

Wow. Do these models still offer a wired pushbutton? If they get rid of that option it would really restrict what we can do. I always assumed I’d buy any (non-Chaimberlain) opener and use the push-button wires to automate it in HA. Now I suppose we need to check the specs to verify this is even an option.

Not really

And some use pwm drive I believe so it won’t be a simple bypass of relay

Just select carefully

2.0 model
OR
Relay driven
This will show in specs or manual

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They still have the wall controller if that’s what you mean, and yes it can be wired - the wires carry only power though. All communication with the gdo is Bluetooth. There’s a bunch of writeups about it all over already - basically Chamberlain is the devil and don’t touch their products any more.

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Thanks everyone for the input. I think I am just walking away from Chamberlain/Lift Master and going the Genie route. I think they have handled all of this poorly and are just money hungry IMO. My garage door installer is even upset with Lift Master and has used them for years. I am just going to avoid them and hope someone else takes over the garage door opener market by the time I have to replace mine.

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