Where to start with ZigBee?

ZHA

I didn’t even know there was a “migrate” function.

Has anybody used it to know if it works as advertised?

Brand single, no. Brands pural… mostly yes.

  • Door/window: I’ve had folks (in North America) recommend the Linkind sensors, but I’ve had zero issues with Xiaomi Aqara (original and E1) and the Terncy DC-01 sensors.

  • Motion: Linkind again, plus Aqara (original and P1) and the mmWave FP1. If you want more than just motion the Develco “mini” is great - motion, light levels, and temperature.

  • Garage: I’d suggest looking at OpenGarage to hook up your existing opener.

  • Smoke alarms: Many smart smoke alarms are great at being smart, and terrible at detecting smoke. The only one I know of that’s actually good (based on actual testing) is Nest, or if you live somewhere that FireAngel sells their kit maybe try a hacked WiFi bridge.

  • Thermostat: Nest works

  • Doorbell: DIY it

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This is all incredibally valuable information, thank you all.

So like you say @jerrm, I just need to jump in so I’ll start with the Sonoff ZBDongle P to try out first ZHA and then Zigbee2MQTT.

Sonoff seems reasonably priced but not the cheapest (looking on Aliexpress) so for testing should I also get one each of the Sonoff humidity, motion and door/window sensors or something more specific for each one?

I’ll also get a Sonoff ZBMINI or two for lights.

  • mains powered so does this also perform as a router?
  • would I be able to use the humidity sensor with a ZBMIMI to control a bathroom extraction fan or is the mini only for lights?

Thanks again

Yes it routes. Right now assume mains powered devices do unless it’s a Sengled bulb.

The ZBMini max amperage is 10a and it’s not a dimmer so you can absolutely switch an extraction fan - as long as the fan’s draw does not exceed the ratings of the switch. (This is where you get very good at pulling down product documentation for your devices and start checking load ratings, you’re the only one who has the model of that fan to look it up on the manufacturer’s website)

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Hi,
I used the ZHA migration from a Sonoff 3 USB radio/coordinator to a NabuCasa Yellow and found it mostly worked (just not the way you might expect…):

James

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Wiping the old radio to factory default before the new radio is confirmed to be running doesn’t give me a warm fuzzy feeling.

Do you know if a zigbee backup made from the integration can be used to do the migration with the old zigbee stick dead? IOW, is the old stick required to be active when starting the migration process?

in your other thread you sdeem to be saying they both need to be accessible.

Short answer - I don’t know for sure, the other post has my ZHA upgrade experience written up in detail.

Longer answer - After restoring the RPi4 backup to the Yellow, and installing a “new” Zigbee integration, the ZHA migration tool seemed to kick in.
The trouble is, details matter. My experience was with ZHA not Z2MQTT. Apparently, not all Zigbee coordinator radios operate the same, meaning migrations may not work. The integrations have different drivers for different chipsets, and these have complex dependencies. No, I don’t know what these are, sorry.

EDIT: Found the lost discussion thread, with lots of technical detail on the pitfalls of migration:

If you start the ZHA coordinator migration tool manually, it appears to assume both the old and new coordinator are both accessible so the details can be transferred directly (i.e. not via a HASS backup). This is why it wiped the old coordinator (no, I don’t remember it giving any warnings).

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Are you saying that the Skyconnect stick won’t be available in December?

If you haven’t pre-ordered by now then you would be in the second batch estimated for Jan/Feb delivery. I assumed the OP had not pre-ordered.

The batch for “Nov/Dec” is closed out for pre-order. Other than generic skepticism, I have no basis to think they won’t ship in the proper window, but presumably all of the batch is spoken for.

The second preorder batch for Jan/Feb is still open - but that is “two months or so.” I don’t see why anyone would wait that long with alternatives readily available.

Whether there will be any non-preordered stock available beyond he second batch pre-orders is unknown.

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Good basic knowledge about Zigbee regardless if read it before or after starting is also to try to follow all the advice here → Guide for Zigbee interference avoidance and network range/coverage optimization

In addition, check out the read the best practices to avoid Zigbee pairing/joining/connection difficulties

There are all in all many simple actions that can and should take to workaround known Zigbee issues.

Most problems are not specific Zigbee gateway solutions so most tips apply to all setups/environments.

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