My first steps was in virtualenv, than moved to rpi4 and now I thinking about Intel NUC. Question is about power - will be NUC with i7-8559U powerful for HASS + Zoneminder or MotionEye with 6 cameras? Ideally in fullhd and about 30fps, watching cameras in HA and 24/7 recording to NAS
Why are you wanting to use a NUC?
There are lots of options out there beyond a NUC if you are open to them.
From what I read, rpi4 don’t have performance for ZoneMinder with 6x 1080p cameras. And instead of rpi4 with HA and another machine with ZoneMinder, I would rather sold rpi and run HA + ZM on NUC. Earlier I try virtualenv on vps running on NAS, but there is no supervisor, so if I want official image and more power than rpi, I see only NUC as option
The “NUC” Image will run on any x86 hardware. Old laptops, desktops will run it fine. Opens a lot of possibilities that save a ton of money.
Good to know 
I will try it on old laptop, it may be good starting point to selecting hw for final setup
Also a heap of Chinese mini PC’s on Alliexpress (ICY I think I got) They are cheap and pretty good.
XCY…looks fine and very cheap, thanks for tip
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The laptop even has its own UPS!
Take a look at HP, Dell, etc. desktops that are a couple of years old. I picked up two HP ProDesk 600 G1 Desktop Mini PC for $100 of of facebook marketplace. Perfect condition, just got replaced at an office. You can get these mini PCs or full size desktops (and sizes inbetween) for pretty cheap. They can be found with everything from a low power celeron to a full power i7.
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So HassOS image will run on one of those???
4Gb RAM and 64Gb eMMC will be large enough for HA. I will be able to run the VSCode add-on?!
Yes it will!. Though I would recommend to stick a SATA SSD in it instead of using the eMMC which is not very reliable. It is essentially an sd card which has no controller and wear leveling or TRIM with low end NAND flash and will fail in a couple of months just like a rPi SD card.
So, did I get it right, I can use nuc image for your HP or even chinese XCY? Only need to be 86?
I am searching cheap replacement for pi on parents house.
Did not think to find anything cheaper than NUC5CPYH, it’s around 115$ in russia
I’m currently running on a Tinker Board S with 16Gb eMMC. No issue for more than a year now. Do I have to worry? Is it the same quality?
You might want to read this article:
The reliability question comes into play depending on what you do with the storage. If you use it as if it was a ROM then no problem (little to no writing). Even for a digital camera if you fill it up all the way and then delete everything and fill it up again like it is meant to be for an SD card, it shouldn’t as big of an issue. If however like on a rPi, you need to write logs, constantly saving and updating data on it like home assistant does (again depends on how you set it up), it is destined to fail in short order as you will be overwriting the same cells over and over again and these are rated for ~5000 write cycles so… eventually you will start seeing data corruption.
As for that little PC, better than the tinkerboard… much better. I have an equivalent one from beelink (the S2) I have had for over a year. I just switched it to run off of a POE splitter. It consumes 10W at peak load and generally between 1 and 2W. It should be at least 4X faster than even the rpi4. It’s a much more reliable and power efficient solution than any ARM based CPU… if you need that computational power that is.
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I’ve been running Ubuntu server and Hassio via docker for many months on a Beelink BT3 (Atom X5, 2GB RAM And 64GB MMC). It’s plenty fast enough.
But as pointed out above its best to have an SSD so plan to use my old laptop soon since the case is broken by the hinges. That has an i5 3317u, 8GB RAM and an SSD. Also has the advantage of a built in UPS so it can cleanly shutdown in the even of a power failure.
Another question - what about migration? Can I simply go to Supervisor > Snapshots on Rpi, make full snapshot, install hass.io nuc image on new machine and restore snapshot here? Or are there any incompatible “things” between snapshot from rpi and nuc image?
If I remember correctly there was an issue with add-ons because RPi and NUC are not the same architecture (ARM vs x86). So you had to remove them and reinstall them. I think that it is not an issue now but can’t confirm (add-ons are re-downloaded with correct arch)
Now that support for my board has been dropped like Wink added subscription, I need to move to another board…
Are we sure that support for all non-official NUC won’t be dropped some times in the futur because of, I don’t know, drivers or whatever?
No, I bought a used NUC for half the price (because NUC are fully supported by HA OS)
Which NUC model did you go with?