Wiser Schneider

I’m also interested in the same products you’re referring to and how to use that in HA :slight_smile:

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I see, I thought that you were talking about the heating product.

Looking at your image, the mobile app looks the same as the Drayton Wiser heating one. In Germany the Drayton Wiser products are sold under the brand name Eberle. They include iTRVs, Room Thermostats, Plugs (used as repeaters), and a floor heating module.

Some Schneider Electric products are supported by Zigbee2MQTT and looks like they are on your picture as well, but they are not named in Z2M as Wiser. Probably that is due to the new brand naming from Schneider Electric.

What I can tell is that, these devices can really be updated through their Gateway, like Legrand’s Netatmo products, or Legrand’s Biticino products. If you do choose to set them up with the Wiser Gateway, then you need to try to access the Gateway the same way as in the Wiser integration and provide the developers with the outputs, then they will be able to add it probably to their custom integration.

If you do go with just the Zigbee dongle then you might need to put some effort to have these devices supported in Z2M or ZHA.

So basically what you say is that it’s better to run the Wiser-Gateway, and then talk with the Wiser-Gateway through HAOS?

I’ve tried to use the iTRVs with SmartThings before and Z2M after. There were mixed results. Recently I started to use them with the Heat Hub and it works far more better. I guess that would work the same way with the Gateway as well. The discussion in the other topic seems to say the same.

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Hello, do you know if this will work with the German Merten Wiser Touch? Apparently Schneider purchased these guys as well. The system I have is this one: Wiser™ Home Touch | Merten

If not, does anyone know of an integration for HA?

Thanks!

Hi,

Sorry I missed your message.
I do not know but if this is recent then I doubt it will be compatible.
However the Drayton Wiser Home Assistant Integration might be a better option for compatibility.

Regards,

Thanks, I will check into it further. The Merten Wiser Home Touch is similar and looks identical in appearance but I think it might have different software. I will contact Merten to see if they have any integration software. - Frank

I contacted Merten and they stated it’s not zigbee but didn’t say what it is. Anyone?

Great post. We’re in the same process although we might not be as far along as you are(architect first draft). Don’t like Plejd at all and other solutions does not seem as developed or one would have to pick and mix between a multitude of brands. Found Wiser the other day while scrolling different solutions for wall outlets(also swedish, seems it’s mostly heaters abroad). Whatever your findings, please share. Following the progress!

One thing I learned is that Schneider can be different in each country. I’m not sure why, but that’s what they disclosed to me. For instance, Schneider Germany and Austria can be different for some reason. I think the switches are BLE & WLAN but not sure how to talk to the gateway. It has an IP address. I would love to keep the gateway since I already paid for it! :slight_smile:

The Wiser Heating devices are not listed as Zigbee devices either. Their brochure says 2.4Ghz only.

As it is not saying Zigbee (Certified), they don’t have to follow fully the standard.

Only the Wiser “legacy” (older) devices used Zigbee, so do a search on Blakadder’s Zigbee database:

https://zigbee.blakadder.com/search.html

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So more on this. The shutter devices I am using ARE Zigbee and the Merten Wiser Touch is a Zigbee hub that communicates with them. There is a Alexa skill that is available. That being the case, can I somehow control from HA via Alexa?

I have paired several devices directly via ZHA but the open/close direction and “run-time” for the devices are not implemented very well in the current device quirks.

I’m just looking for a way to send commands from HA to Wiser Touch via Alexa? Is this possible?

Appreciate feedback.

There is a way to trigger Alexa Routines from Home Assistant, like this:

Create the buttons as helpers in Home Assistant, set them up as it required by Alexa for Proactive Events.

Create Alexa routines to trigger the Wiser Touch commands.

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Thank you for the insight. I was able to accomplish the same thing just by using the Amazon media player and building a skill within the Alexa app. The solution you gave indeed looks very powerful and hopefully, someday, I’ll have better skills and will do many things this way.

Thank you!

The best thing would be if the Merten Wiser Touch could be added as an integration but it depends on Merten and some people’s interest to invest into it

Suggest reporting that as bug(s) to ZHA Device Handlers → https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/issues

The reason why is explained in ZHA docs → https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha#zha-exception-and-deviation-handling

Thanks for the suggestions. I found a way “around” this by using the Alexa media player and issuing commands from HA to the Wiser skill. It works but is messy since I don’t really have visibility into the devices through the skill.

I will pursue this as you suggested.

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FYI, ZHA device handler quirk development https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/pull/1705

also see the related ZHA quirks feature requests for Schneider Electric Wiser Zigbee devices here:

https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/issues?q=is%3Aissue+wiser

Thank you!