WTH can't I use a card as more-info popup

[Ildar_Gabdullin]

@potelux

It visually indicates that the data you are viewing belongs to the page behind it

BTW, on a mobile device like iPhone a popup occupies a whole screen - like a subview; i.e. no difference.

@potelux

Essentially, the pop up is more aesthetic and more intuitive.

Questionable; some users intentionally use masks for a background in custom themes to make it less vivid - to not distract from a popup:

[potelux]

I did not know that. Is that an implementation choice? Or a limitation of iOS?

[Ildar_Gabdullin]

@potelux

I did not know that

If you mean “popup occupies a whole screen” - imho it is because a screen too small.

[nicohirsch]

@wendevlin

What about a subview and define the click to navigate to this subview?

That’s what I wrote above - so I absolutely agree with potelux:

@nicohirsch

I like the idea of a subview as popup, because it would bring a lot of flexibility, but I think that most of the time I’d try to keep it rather small. So it would not be worth creating a full screen subview for that.
But even if people use it to create really big subview popups: Opening a popup and closing it is something totally different then navigation away and back (where you probably also loose scroll position) in terms of UX. On slow devices, navigating back is also a lot slower than closing a popup.

[Ildar_Gabdullin]

I would agree that a possibility to use any card as a popup will widen flexibility.
Meanwhile we can use workarounds like subview & custom:browser-mod.

[nicohirsch]

@Ildar_Gabdullin

some users intentionally use masks for a background in custom themes to make it less vivid - to not distract from a popup:

It was me who implemented the theme variable for backdrop filter into HA to be able to blur it So I don’t want the background to distract from the popup - but I still want a popup instead of a sub view for the reasons stated above. That’s why I use browser mod as a workaround at the moment, but of course I hope that some day it will be possible natively in HA.

[Ildar_Gabdullin]

@nicohirsch

It was me who implemented the theme variable for backdrop filter

Hope you do not mean “ha-card-backdrop-filter” since it broke z-index )))

[nicohirsch]

@Ildar_Gabdullin

Hope you do not mean “ha-card-backdrop-filter” since it broke z-index

No, I have added --dialog-backdrop-filter: https://github.com/home-assistant/frontend/pull/7635