WTH, why can’t I reorder sidebar menu items using a keyboard and screen reader?

Home Assistant offers the ability to reorder items in the left sidebar, which is great. But… WTH, why is this feature completely inaccessible for users relying on keyboards or screen readers?

Currently, the only way to change the order of items in the sidebar is by dragging them with a mouse. This is a huge barrier for users who cannot use a mouse or who rely on assistive technologies. For example, here’s how a screen reader (NVDA) reads the sidebar in edit mode:

GOTOWE  
Przegląd  
Ukryj panel  
Centrum Streamingu  
Ukryj panel  
Music Assistant  
Ukryj panel  
Listy zadań  
Ukryj panel  
Kalendarz  
Ukryj panel  
Mapa  
Ukryj panel  
Energia  
Ukryj panel  
Media  
Ukryj panel  
Dziennik  
Ukryj panel  
Historia  
Ukryj panel  

This lack of accessibility is frustrating for several reasons:

  1. No keyboard navigation. There’s no way to reorder items using the keyboard, such as with “Move Up” and “Move Down” buttons.
  2. No input for manual positioning. There’s no option to assign a specific position number to an item.
  3. Inconsistent with other features. In earlier dashboard versions (without sections), it was possible to rearrange cards using keyboard-accessible controls. Why not offer the same here?

Suggested solutions:

  • Add “Move Up” and “Move Down” buttons for each item in the sidebar settings, accessible via keyboard and screen readers.
  • Allow users to manually assign a position number to items for precise control.
  • Ensure the feature integrates well with assistive technologies, providing clear announcements for changes (e.g., “Moved Music Assistant to position 3”).

This would make the sidebar much more accessible and inclusive for all users.

Is anyone else facing this challenge? Or am I the only one wondering why such a simple feature is inaccessible? :thinking:

+1 for a11y.

Having been at companies in the past on the receiving end of accessibility lawsuits, I strongly encourage the community to do a full a11y audit and make a plan for WCAG v2 compliance if there isn’t one already in place (didn’t see anything in a quick search).

For those who want to know more about a11y:

I also support this request and have voted for it.

+1 . I’m not facing the same exact challenge, but related ones.
a. I reluctantly use a laptop with a trackpad, because it’s impossible to get anything with proper buttons these days, and a trackball. I loathe trackpads, especially for dragging, and I’ll use keyboard shortcuts any chance I get.
b. even though I’m able to drag in other apps such as Windows explorer, the re-ordering feature does not seem to work in Firefox. I’m not sure what UI element I am supposed to click, with which button, how long to hold it, and where to drag it. The typical action with left button click, hold and drag does not work, nor does anything else I have tried. The only thing on that screen that works for me is the X to hide items.

Edit: looks like it works in Microsoft Edge, so the bug may be Firefox specific. Unfortunately, since this is a client-side setting, there is no simple workaround (copying cookies or data across browsers doesn’t count). That brings up my next comment, which is that I wonder why this can’t be done server side. Being able to set a default order for the user would be useful - or even a default order for all users. Having per-user and per-client override is great, but shouldn’t be the only way to accomplish this.

I found out this reorder/hide option is only available for browser clients, also, but not the app client.

I was looking forward to changing it in the Android app as well, but it’s not possible.

So I’m 0 for 2 with this feature between the Firefox issue and the Android app issue.

It is possible in the Android app - bring up the sidebar, then press and hold on the “Home Assistant” text at the top of the sidebar. (Not the most obvious interface…)

Thank you for that !

Actually, I had just missed it in the UI - the edit button is there in the app too. The feature is only broken in Firefox.

Reorder the sidebar items works in MS-Edge browser. Wen i then go back to Firefox the order is still not changed. So i guess those settings are saved in the browser not the server.

Yes, it is stored in the browser.

Yes. To be fair, that is somewhat expected given that the UI has a section for client/device only. I made the case above that some of these should be possible to set server side.

One more oddity is that if you delete the default dashboard from the list, it still remains as default. For instance, I chose to hide “Overview”.

I’ve added a keyboard usable position selector for panels, should go out to release in 2025.6.

Ugh, sorry to say but after this was merged, core team changed their mind and yanked it out again because they didn’t like the way it looked.

So I guess we’ll have to keep waiting, spoke too soon :cry:

Thanks. It looks like the Firefox bug has been fixed now. I am able to disable & re-order the sidebar menus, with the mouse at least.