0.116: Entities card row editor, restore snapshots and performance metrics

bingo, popping up as we speak here:

I see the update here now too but I did not get an alert. I see it has not propegated to https://s3.amazonaws.com/hassio-version/stable.json yet.

Screenshot_2020-10-22 https s3 amazonaws com

So how the heck did my system know?

It must check somewhere else.

EDIT: never mind. I forgot I joined the beta program again. https://s3.amazonaws.com/hassio-version/beta.json shows 4.15.

Is ther any update on this? not only is it stopping recording of security cameras intermittently but its also appears to be stopping casting of the lovelace UI to google devices

They are working on it, I think there will be some minimal adjustment for 0.117 and they maybe fix it in 0.118 (I’m just saying maybe)

Same here…

I’ve been running/tinkering with Home Assistant for years, and installed it in a FreeBSD jail. Back then, this was considered a more “long term” approach to the Raspberry path because you had more control and horsepower. Many of us did it, and were happy with it.

Then… The priorities shifted and now people like us are left with a community that considers us stepchildren who “should know what they are doing” if we want to continue such a “complicated” setup. We inevitably get told to go use one of the “preferred” methods if we don’t know what we’re doing. The problem is we jumped in and were “learning” when our setups were all but abandoned. Switching is not what I want to do.

If it runs on Python, make it a dependency and pull in what it needs.

The open source community is terrific, but this has always been the issue. They shoot themselves in the foot with the constant expectation that we all be programmers, or expect to get shunned out the door.

You know what, while I still think I had a point in my original post, I eventually decided to switch to Supervisor (former Hassio) after all. It took me around 1 hour and everything worked like a charm. Eventually it was much less work than switching Python versions. So if the devs did all of this to push us away from a venv installation, maybe they were right :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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I saw that snapshot restore was added to .116 during onboarding. I don’t see any information on how to get to the snapshot?

The video shows the file in the downloads but it doesn’t say how the get the snapshot into the downloads.

You need to have previously downloaded the snapshot. It is recommended to have a backup separate from the machine that runs your ha instance.

There are a number of addons that can create backups and put them in a remote location.

I understand the I need a previous created back on another machine. How do I get this backup file onto my new pi? Will the pi read the file if I put it on a thumb drive?

You upload it from the PC that you are viewing HA from

How if ssh and samba is not installed?

The PC you are VIEWING from. Not the HA server. It should ask you to locate where it is stored locally on your PC so you can upload it via the normal HA GUI.

Again without ssh or samba how do you transfer the file? Onboarding allows you to do an immediate restore after home assistant is installed (before any program is added). The docs leave out information. I was trying to find out from someone that did it how. Maybe on a thumb drive?

Like I said previously, GUI upload, not SSH or Samba

It’s like when you regularly open a file on your PC (open file dialogue). The popup should ask you where to browse to locally and then the GUI uploads the file to the server.

Read this

Thanks. I’ll give it a try when I update my pi 4 to ssd boot. I watch the video and it wasn’t clear to me where the file was stored. I checked the onboarding docs and it doesn’t mention this capability.

The docs don’t mention where the file is stored because that is entirely up to you. Where did YOU put it when YOU did this:

The docs don’t even mention that you can do this. The only mention of this is in the release notes of .116 and the video. As I store my snapshot on Google drive I can put the file anywhere… I was just trying to understand where it should be. Also since the ssd bootfor the rpi4 is on the beta / developers channel I assume you do not over write the operating system on the restore?

Yes they do. Step 7 here: Installation - Home Assistant

I looked at the onboarding docs.
https://www.home-assistant.io/getting-started/onboarding
Neither gives any information on where the file needs to be. After I get it working I’ll try and update the docs.

Why?

I showed you where it was mentioned in installation.