It is covered in the documentation. This blurb pulled from the Spotify integration page covers the functionality:
Not at all. This is the correct terminology, the context is different. It even eludes to that in the PR. Companies provide services, this is a service that is provided by spotify. This was opened up recently that allows for automatic discovery.
For future reference, if a PR is referencing a home assistant service, the yaml will be present in the PR along with a description of the service and a link to the documentation changes. This PR had no documentation changes because discovery was already possible, the bar for discovery was just lowered.
Ah! Thanks, that finally clears things up.
I still don’t agree with the use of “service” as it generates confusion between spotify service as a company and HA service and HA Service call, and the confusion created proves quite well my point I guess
OK, but again this takes previous experience with this documentation method and practices, which in my view makes it a bad approach for newcomers like me.
That’s actually very kind of you, as I’m sure others will do too, and even I can someday do the same.
That said, it does NOT relieve the developers from their duty to properly document things so that users can start using it correctly right away, instead of having to spend countless hours trying to figure out what the code does and how to use it.
Thank you for the clarification, and I don’t take offence at all, no worries.
If that’s the rule here, then fine, I’ll have to obey it, but this is the first forum where I see that rule, and honestly I don’t get it.
I run a forum myself as both admin and mod, and if someone reading a thread knows that someone else not involved has a solution or can contribute to it in a positive way we see no harm in referencing him so that he knows he can contribute if he wants to. Just a different way of seeing things I guess.
I do appreciate that being the HA original author/creator he does get hundreds of notifications and If I knew that he had that role I would not have mentioned him for sure, he sure has a lot on his plate already, but as I’ve mentioned earlier, I was unware of that.
Now, enough side talk if you don’t mind, getting back to what matters:
Did you have 2021.7.2 installed before upgrading to 2021.7.3?
I’m asking because I had it installed just one or two days before, and the discovery of Spotify was one of the things I noticed after 2021.7.2 so this is definitely not new to 2021.7.3.
Either someone did a commit/merge into the main branch sooner than intended, or forgot to mention the feature on 2021.7.2, but it was already there, it is NOT new to 2021.7.3.
Yup, but that was introduced in 2021.7.2.
So when I saw the 2021.7.3 release note I would never guessed it was describing something already applied in 2021.7.2.
OK, all is clear now, one way or the other, case closed for me.
Thank you all for your answers that clarified things for me.
Yeah, thanks, I really don’t get all the negativity and assumptions on the bad side in there.
“bad manners, you’re demanding somebody answers you”
“nobody has to help you”
I truly can’t understand how asking for help can be taken as something disrespectful or demanding for an answer, but I digress. Rules are rules, and if we want to be in, we have to obey them, even if we don’t agree or like them.
We are dealing here with a wide variety of cultural differences & cultural norms. We all try to get along together in the most respectful way possible.
The tagging rule is in place because a few bad seeds decided to harass volunteer developers to the point that the developers quit or reached out to moderators.
I recently installed 2021.7.3 and noticed that the ZHA Visualization view no longer shows a device map, it’s blank for me. I downgraded to 2021.7.2 and the Visualization view works properly, displaying the device mapping. I upgraded/downgraded between the two versions a few more times, and it showed the same behavior, no map on 7.3, and working map on 7.2. I see there was an upgrade to the ZHA integration in 7.3, and I’m wondering if anyone else is seeing this issue.
Hello, Did You found a solution for “[homeassistant.components.sms.gateway] Failed to initialize, error ERR_NOTSUPPORTED” ? For now, I just roll back snapshot. Do You use home assistant os or Raspberry PI OS ? After 2021.7 I had Try to Switch to Home Assistant OS but on I’t i even have issue with switching modem AT so for me only working solution is Raspberry Pi OS and I’m installing docker on IT. Hope I’t will be fixed soon.