Tuya WiFi / Zigbee 16A Smart AU Socket Plug Voice Control for Alexa Google Home | eBay Are these “Tuya” Zigbee 16A Smart AU GPO plugs with power metering certified for use in Australia? I’ve been using them successfully with ZHA for near on two years and they have been flawless. I assumed they were certified as they are readily available from several Australian sources. And have been so for over 24 months… So what are the facts on the certification of this product? Thanks SJ
Hmmm … Why not ask the seller ???
I have also seen devices like these advertised … but ebay, amazon, and all the Chinese internet stores are hardly trusted sources - too many fly-by-night vendors who hide behind the anonymity internet provides at the first problem (or even the first question). I am curious as to whether these sellers are Chinese immigrants trying to do a bit of business on the side using contacts ‘back home’; or just Chinese companies pretending to have a local presence. I consider their “Customer Service Working Time (Beijing GMT+8 Time Zone)” to be a clue.
I note that one of their images lists “Certifications: CE / RoHS”, but no Australian certification. Unfortunately local certification costs enough to put off all but the major dealers, and that cost adds to the price of our local products. Having said that, $20.99 + $6 postage for wi-fi doesn’t seem such a great deal for something which could possibly burn your house down.
That’s my take FWIW. I certainly hope your experience continues positive.
^ Well I have no idea. I just want to know the facts. Are they certified (or not)? @sparkydave do you know the facts? Anyone else?
No they are not.
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^ Ok sorry I just assumed they were - given they have been in the market for so long. I’d reckon well over 3 years now. They have been the backbone of my Zigbee network extension…Better swap them out then. Are there any matter ready GPO’s that are certified? Which also do power monitoring? Interesting… how come they are continued to be allowed to be sold (to an unwary public)? Just curious
Because eBay likes money and does not care if you burn your house down. There’s not even a way to report the listing to eBay. None of their canned report options fit the issue.
…sure… don’t the regulators police the laws? Its surely also an OH&S issue (not just insurance)… Have any actually be involved in a fire?
Pretty sure the regulators are just doing this 
. The task is far too big for them. It is a case of buyer beware.
What do you use as an alternative? thanks
Ok so the Tuya GPO plugs have certification in Europe… not that means much in our part of the world I guess. They clearly can’t be bothered getting Australian Cert (they have had over 3 years). Some matter ones coming out I see (Eve, T-link) with cert (I hope). Any of those easy to integrate into HA yet?
2 for 1 Xmas sale.
EDIT: SOLD OUT.
Take this seriously, we DID have an issue with a zwave switch (that was approved thankfully), that literally burnt to a crisp(so certification didn’t help, apart from insurance wise), house and bedroom filled with smoke at 4am - the only thing that saved us was the fire retardant insulation panel we randomly happened to have between that switch (gpo inline type) and the floorboards. Caused by power surges on the line - out of our control. Scary. 
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Just as an FYI, in case anyone else had been keeping an eye on this…
The Aqara Dual Relay T2 is a now available in Australia, with certification (ERAC National Certification Database - EESS-230842). Was released earlier this year overseas, but hadn’t been available in Australia before now.
Supports Matter(!), both wet and dry contacts, and has power monitoring.
I was looking at this as a Zigbee alternative to Shelly, however these don’t support dimming, which I required for a few locations…and also the Australian RRP 
Decided to go for Zigbee Ikuu mechs for light switches instead.
Anyone had experience with these Aqara modules yet?
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Thanks for the heads up.
I see it and Bing Lee
https://www.binglee.com.au/products/dual-relay-module-t2-dcm-k01
You will need a ZigBee bridge for this.
This is really confusing. Is there just a basic AU powerstrip that measures power consumption I can plug in that works with HA in 2023/2024?
A bonus would be that it has a surge protector
@x.ha I am taking this very seriously, methodically documenting (and photographing for my records) as I go through all the zigbee and wifi devices (and relevant Australian standards certificates appropriate for said devices) I have now installed in my home. I have several different “manufacturers”…and I have to say this process is not easy. A product can be rebadged, sold by a different retailer etc and even appears in HA as a zigbee device under a completely different “model number”. Searching for which (the name used) is not easy. It is very much dependent on who registered for compliance. Was it the Chinese factory?, Was it the importer? Is it the retailer? etc etc. I have done my very best spending literally hrs on this. If my place ever burns down (and I need to claim insurance)…that will be my defence. “I have not left a stone unturned your honor” (In my quest for compliance)
Fortunately the Tuya smart plug (single) seems to be the only device in my house that is not certified for use in Australia (though is compliant in Europe). Why in Europe, but not here? Who knows… as the humble consumer I am… I have no idea. At the end of the day all the compliance savvy consumer can do, is do their very best to try have an electrically safe (and insurable) house… Hrs spent on this sort of thing vs some other holiday venture. Short of driving their OCD to a higher level of mental state distress. And completely off the charts.
I am even questioning one of the retailers I have purchased from right now. Being the good citizen I am and also in an effort to thwart future sales to another unwary member of the home automation community. However, sooner or later one needs to trust that the relevant authorities will police the matter. Fortunately these Tuya (often rebadged something else) zigbee smart plugs “with power monitoring” are really easy to swap out and replace with something else - (which of course I will do, now I have found out that even after 3 years of widespread marketing and sales on well known platforms like ebay, they still seem to remain “non compliant” in this little neck of the woods). Given they can be simply pulled out of the plug, they are truly “plug in and play” so don’t need a physical replacement by an electrician. Which really is a godsend (and why they were so attractive as a purchase in the first place). Heaven help anybody who has physically wired any devices with “difficult to find” compliance certificates or search parameters, as here in Melbourne it’s a nightmare to get an electrician to even bother to quote, heaven forbid turn up… let alone arrange to be onsite (at a mutually convenient time) heck then be lucky the device you have wired is “discovered” and works properly in ZHA>
Such are the vagaries of home automation in this country.
Of course though physically easy to swap out, this does not necessarily mean “easy to change within HA and the ZHA mesh” (ie software and mesh changes) as I have around of 12 of these and multiple automations hanging off them. So doing this and then testing it all works and remains stable will take time.
I have allocated a couple of weekends for this task. And will do my best 
Cheers
SJ
Cool. I have checked with the supplier. These and the Mk2 are compliant. Cheers
It’s just business.
Because it costs a non-trivial amount to get a device certified for use in Aus/NZ.
To justify that expense, how many will they need to sell ? How much will that push up the retail price ?
It doesn’t make sense for any retailer, since they will bear all the cost - which they need to pass on to their own customers, while other retailers get the benefit with out any cost.
Much more realistic for an Importer/Wholesaler … but only if they think there is a large enough market, and they have an exclusive contract with the supplier, and the clout to prevent parallel imports (most of the cheap ones you see on Amazon and ebay). Maybe the local Importer can persuade the manufacturer to contribute to the cost of certification … but maybe the manufacturer sees the Australian market as too small to be worth the effort (especially compared with Europe or USA).
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