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I guess what I am saying is “so what” if it’s “Matter” when it is actually working over plain ol wifi? … Read the box - if you want something that works on the Thread network it needs to have thread written on the box…(whether “Matter” is on the box or not)

Or in other words - It’s not like wifi hasn’t been “open source” for decades… so what if it’s “Matter over wifi” Like I said “Matter over wifi” is a marketing gimmick. Just MO

Still not sure what your point is other than being contrary… there was no question about thread, there was a question about what power monitoring plugs were available. I mentioned I used matter based versions because I prefer local control rather than cloud (as I suspect most HA users do), Thread has no bearing on that.

Matter is the protocol that is open, allows for interoperability and local control. Thread is merely one of the transport layers available (along with WiFi and ethernet).

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Agree. But wifi has been “local” and “open source” (as you know) for decades… ^ hence the point in my last post. Matter (unless the device is actually on a thread network) is pure and unashamed marketing nonsense (Just MO)

Bought one… haven’t had it installed…I thought it would be better that Ikuu dimmer :frowning:

Yes aeotec zwave 6 is rock solid…and yes zwave is far more reliable than slz6 zigbee

Awesome, thanks!

The Shelly pro devices all seem to be available here in Australia now… spec’ing a new house build, I’m considering going down the Shelly Pro Ethernet-connected path for smart lighting - it would need a full DIN Rail of Shellys lol, but I could have all the house lighting on cabinet-installed Shelly Pros. I’ve a house-full of ZWave in our current place, but the idea of doing away with mesh entirely is appealing.

I’d end up with Shelly Pro Dimmer 2PMs for dimmable rooms (I assume with bypasses if necessary for low loads?) and probably batch up into Shelly Pro 4PMs for everything else. Running all the Ethernet to the box won’t be a problem.

What is the performance like on these? How is the dimming on the Dimmers? Whilst they are buyable here - are they certified?

Slightly off topic, but a question for the sparkies on here: it seems that it’s common in Australia for a domestic installation to have the earths in the switchboard wrapped and soldered rather than using an earth link. Is there a reason for this?

I had a new circuit installed recently and the electrician (or at least his apprentice) struggled with soldering the new wire onto the existing earth bundle.

I just had my switchboard completely rewired and while I wasn’t looking that closely I’m almost certain they used a brass earth block. Maybe state regulations (I’m in Tas)?

It was common decades ago but not anymore. Unfortunately there is no legal reason for the old method to not be used anymore so some tight-arses still do it. (just like I’ve seen relatively new houses with soldered junctions in the roof rather than using screw connectors)

A blow torch and decent solder generally gets the job done. Probably needed more flux. I’m guessing the bundle is either really old or it still had a heap of electrical tape adhesive stuck to it… or both.

No doubt. He had a blow-torch (borrowed from me) but only rosin-core solder and no other flux. I think I’ll get it replaced with a proper earth link busbar - it’s not a big job, and he has to come back anyway to finish off other stuff.

I’ve ordered a Shelly Pro Dimmer 2PM for testing, will see how I go with it and update here.

Can anyone recommend an Australian sold/compliant 0-10V “puck style” (or otherwise small) dimmer that works natively + locally with HA? And supports reliable fine-grained control over the 0-10V output?

Something like the Shelly Plus -10V (https://www.shelly.com/products/shelly-plus-0-10v-dimmer) - but that doesn’t seem to be sold here.

This isn’t actually to control a light, but rather a LUNOS HRV unit that supports control via 0-10V signals, hence the need for relatively precise/reliable 0-10V voltage control, e.g.:

[Fan Speed] Stage 0:   0.6-0.9 V   OFF 
[Fan Speed] Stage 1:   1.1-1.4 V 
[Fan Speed] Stage 2:   1.6-1.9 V 
[Fan Speed] Stage 3:   2.1-2.4 V 
[Fan Speed] Stage 4:   2.6-2.9 V 
[Fan Speed] Stage 5:   3.1-3.4 V 
[Fan Speed] Stage 6:   3.6-3.9 V 
[Fan Speed] Stage 7:   4.1-4.4 V 
[Fan Speed] Stage 8:   4.6-4.9 V 

(also open to other ways to achieve this, but a 0-10V dimmer seemed the logical option.)

it’s not in a puck format, but a digital pot via ESPHome would do the function.

Thanks. Hoping for something off the shelf, but will keep that in mind as a backup option.

I bougt three of the Shelly 0-10V dimmers and they shipped to Australia. Not sure if they’re AU complient but they seem really well made. I actually don’t need them anymore if you or anyone else is interested in buying them. I’m in Brisbane but could post them.

Alternatively I found these https://smarthomedirect.com.au/product/qubino-z-wave-dimmer-0-10v/?v=f77d8ed2dc48
They seem AU compliant and probably would work well in HA with Z-Wave.

The Shelly 0-10Vs aren’t AU compliant unfortunately; hoping to find something that is.

Thanks re the Qubino - I somehow missed that in my initial search. No existing Z-Wave infrastructure so a minor pain, but good to have it as an option if I can’t find anything else.

Anyone have any idea when we get the new LoRa Z wave sticks in Australia and will these be backward compatible with Shelly Z Wave? thanks

Did you make a call on what to pick up? I suspect my kp115s are due to start failing…

Keen for something I can put on my server, along with fridge etc.