Best dishwasher for Home Assistant

I have a Bosch dryer, about 3 years old. It does its core job very good.

You have to activate the remote start function every time on the fysical machine itself when you want to use remote start. It is a security policy. But hey, you also have to put in the clothes yourself and have to close the door yourself. :slightly_frowning_face:

It runs 2.4Ghz WiFi only. The native Home Connect app is bloated. But that is where HA is for.

If you don’t have solarpanels, I don’t see a point in a smart dishwasher/dryer. If you have split tarifs, using a machine with a delay timer is good enough imo.

But by some reason they allow

without pressing another button. :man_shrugging:

The issue with the button is that you might have found something you want to add in the appliance, in my case I have a washing machine and for instance my daughter comes with her favorite dress.
You can’t say no to that. So you open the door and add it to the wash and leave. But because you didn’t press the button after closing the door the machine can’t be remote operated.

Just what happened to me last night… I have a connected candy dryer but only use the delay start. It’s nice to get a notification when it’s finished though. And there’s a HA integration so I could firewall it from going online and still get the connectivity :smirk:

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I settled on a Bosch. Good reviews, a good price, and wifi as a plus did it for me. Let’s see how happy I am with it.

https://www.bosch-home.co.uk/supportdetail/product/SMU4HAW48S/04#/Tabs=section-spareparts/

You can set a “Permanent Remote Start” thru the app, so you don’t have to activate it in the dishwwsher all the time… At your risk…

Don’t allow the kids to hide themselves inside the dishwasher while the door is closed and you probably will be good. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

By the way, I have one since almost one year ago… it is a nice dishwasher, silent… But the connection to the server is not the more reliable. It works most of the time, but it fails sometimes.
When the dishwasher looses the connection to the server you can control using the app when in the same LAN, but Home Assistant Integration doesn’t support local comms.

There is an “alternative” integration you can find on HACS… I’ve never tried this, yet, but looks like they have a quite active development, so looks promising and I will probably give a try some day to see if it fixes the connection issues I have from time to time.

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i did this

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I installed the alternative Home Connect integration from HACS. It is sophisticated. I’ll stick to it! Thanks for the tip

The option for permanent remote start is nice, however it is not available on my dryer. I checked with my dryer in de Home Connect app iOS:

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Dishwasher seems to have that option too but my oven does not.

It kind of makes sense to disallow for an oven, you need to put the food in, usually once. My dishwasher routine has been to put the dishwasher tablet in sometime during the day, then fill it bit by bit and make sure its closed when I go to bed. Very different from “I want to cook this in a few hours.” A dryer it would make more sense for, but maybe the safety aspect takes over there.

Ooh, did you say local LAN support through the app @EdwardTFN ? There is some hope for a non-cloud solution then!

I’ve see some cases where the app says the dishwasher isn’t connected to the server, but still connected locally:

I’m not sure now if I was capable to control the device when in this state. I’m pretty sure it is possible.
I’m not sure if this is a Wi-Fi or Bluetooth connection. I’m pretty sure it was Wi-Fi.
I will try to collect more info next time… I would love to have local control from Home Assistant so I’m more than happy to find some time to invest on this.

I got a dump dishwasher (bosch serie4) - it remember the washing state when I cut the power… so a plug is a cheap solution

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Hi I’m now looking for a new dish washer as mine is starting to act up and not wash properly. I have no idea how old it is as it came with the house when we bought it so I think it’s time for a new one. I did like the look of the Bosch and I’m curious if you have remote start functionality. My electricity rate changes every 30 minutes so I too am looking for something that will start when it’s cheaper.

As I mentioned above, it happens from time to time that my Bosch dishwasher loose connection to HA for a while, but other than this it is controlled by HA and can remotely start (it was enabled once using the app and now is available without requiring to enable it in the device every day).
I also have my electricity price changing frequently (every 1h in my case) and I keep the dishwasher ready to go right after removing the clean dishes, then one automation on HA will start it automatically using the Eco program when the electricity is at cheapest during that day.
It works like a charm for me.

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After living with the Bosch for a couple of months, I can’t recommend it. Three times the connection has been lost and three times I’ve had to wipe it from the app and start again. Now this latest time, when trying to register it AGAIN, the app is getting error H9208 - Connection with the server has been lost. Naturally this error code exists nowhere on their website. And yes, I run all my iOT devices on a separate 2.4GHz guest network. I’m hoping their servers are temporarily down.

24 days ago you said, one week ago.
So that’s one month.
That isn’t really my point but if it is one month and you had three connection failures then that is really bad.

I don’t think our washing machine has dropped off from the Bosh connection ever. Haven’t paid enough attention to it.
But the integration has issues, or probably the API.
But that’s a different matter I guess.

I have dumb washing machine and dumb dishwasher. But they can be integrated into home assistant with some contact sensors and smart plugs. Check this post.
Every setup is a bit different but generally this can be done using instructions in above post.

There is a big difference between a smart appliance and an appliance with a contact sensor on it.
I wouldn’t say my front door is integrated in Home Assistant because there is a contact sensor on it.

On the other hand the smart in them isn’t as smart as it could be, but I would still not say it’s the same thing.

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Well we have different opinions on it. It will be pointless discussion but I want just say, that from my point of view this setup suit my needs. I automated my washing machine and my dishwasher to strat washing when electricity is cheaper, I can get status of it and notification when they are finished on my alexa and my mobile using telegram integration. It’s smart enough for me.

Haha, that’s picky. I have to confess I didn’t check the purchase date, but it felt like I’d had it more than a month but not more than two. And yes, three reconnections in a month (or two) is rubbish.

And I should add the dishwasher thinks it’s on wifi (it’s lit up and not blinking), but it’s nowhere in pihole. Time for a factory reset methinks.

What does the app say, do you have local control of it?