Any update? I’m also looking for a solution like this - Netatmo vs Tado (-:
I bought Tado as it was in sale. Been happy with it, easy to integrate with hassio and I have blocked it on firewall so it has no remote connection to cloud and still working fine. It is expensive but from sale I recommend 100%>
tado here and I am happy
Also got tado, when on sale a few weeks ago. Bought a metal adapter for connecting it to standard Danish thermostat, the plastic one didn’t stick.
Is it correct that these run through the Tado webservice and that you need to pay for that?
Not the one I have. Where have u seen that?
I think it was mentioned in this thread; https://community.home-assistant.io/t/tado-valves-without-using-tado-server/112119 somewhere.
Do you have the version 3 or the one before that?
By the way if I just want HA to control a Tado do I need to purchase anything else but the TRV itself or do I need to get one of these starter kits?
Don’t know version number, mine is less than one year old. I don’t see anywhere in that thread that it would cost money.
Don’t know if u can do it without starter kit, I got that. Guess you will need to have the equipment with the capability to communicate directly with the thermostat.
Erik
You can use tado locally with homekit integration.
WIth the newest tado equipment you indeed need a subscription to automate things (geofencing on/off for example) without HA. However, you can just use the API in HA to toggle geofencing. No subscription needed.
The tado’s use 6LowPAN wireless technology iirc, so yes, you need a bridge to go from your LAN/WiFi to reach the TRVs.
Thanks so much Skye!
I’ll get the starter kit then and see if I can get that connected 
@eriktoft, sorry I missunderstood the subscription for it being necessary in HA. Can understand where that might have cost some confusion.
Hello!
This seem’s a bit cold 
How did this go over time? Netamo or Tado?
Which were the issues you found in a daily basis?
Looking forward for your feedback, as I’m investing on heating automation in the next weeks… Thanks!
Not one of the originally mentioned ones, but after figuring out the issues with predefined times (How to delete factory-set temp schedule from t0l0 tuya sea802-z01 radiator valve?), I’m very happy with with the sea802-z01, it’s being sold under various brand names. It’s quiet, it’s not so “blocky” looking, and it just works.
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Thanks for the suggestion!
Is it this stuff: Moeshouse Tuya ZigBee3.0 Smart Radiator Actuator Programmable Thermostatic Radia Sale - Banggood Southeast Asia
Do you use their gateway or another one?
Mine looks like this one, so a different model:
Works via conbee2 stick on my raspberry, so no gateway involved.
ok. it seems they change the design a little bit.
I’ll order one to try and if tests good fine I’ll buy for the remaining radiators.
Just one more thing: what about the battery life? did it last over a year?
I only have it 2 two months so far, so no guarantee. But at least for now the batteries are at 100% still, and it opens and closes the valve completely 2-4 times a day.
Good to know!
By the way:
- do you find it responsive when you cut and open the valve?
- how are you managing your automation?
→ by sending diferent temperature setpoints (like 15°C when you are away, and 20°C when you want it to warm the room)
→ or do you use a open/close valve method?
It does respond quite quick, but there are a few seconds delay. Something between 5 and 20 seconds I think, which is totally fine for my usecase.
In my setup I use it for 2 things so far: when the window opens and the outside temperature is under the inside temperature, then the valve shuts off. Once the window is closed again, the valve opens. Actual temperature regulation isn’t needed for me, as the apartment regulation is done by one central thermostat in the living room. The other usecase is basically monitoring the temperature and heating status in the bathroom, to not forget to close the window again after a while 
At the moment that’s just me looking at the graph on the dashboard occasionally, but I’m looking into having a RGB bulb switch to blue in the hallway, or trigger an e-paper display with a notification.
Excellent!
My plan is to “synchronize” the valve shut off with the opeaning of windows, but also regulate better the temperature.
The thermostat of my heating is centralized at the boiler, so my idea is to set it at a fixed temperature (like 22°C), and them have different temperatures as a function of the type of room, moment of the day, presence at home, etc…
I’ll have separate temperature/humitidy sensors installed in each room instead of the ones integrated in the valve. Hopefully this will allow me to find the best control method to get the best confort/efficiency.
Guess this device should work 
Gonna order a couple to test
Thanks!
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