BirdNET discussion

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Carrying on from the solved BirdNET Feature Request.

In addition to the information in that closed FR topic, some useful links:

BIrdNET-Go link: GitHub - tphakala/birdnet-go: Realtime BirdNET soundscape analyzer (make sure to check out the wiki and discussion sections)

BirdNET-Pi link: GitHub - mcguirepr89/BirdNET-Pi: A realtime acoustic bird classification system for the Raspberry Pi 4B, 3B+, and 0W2 built on the TFLite version of BirdNET.

BirdNET-Pi link: GitHub - Nachtzuster/BirdNET-Pi: A realtime acoustic bird classification system for the Raspberry Pi 5, 4B 3B+ 0W2 and more. Built on the TFLite version of BirdNET.

Home Assistant BirdNET-GO add-on: hassio-addons/birdnet-go at master · alexbelgium/hassio-addons · GitHub

Home Assistant BirdNET-Pi add-on: hassio-addons/birdnet-pi at master · alexbelgium/hassio-addons · GitHub

If you connect your BirdNET (Pi or GO) to Birdweather or Have a BirdWeather Puc see this dashboard project: Bird detector sensors and dashboard

Options for displaying Birdnet detections in a markdown card via MQTT: Displaying Birdnet-go detections

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The original BirdNet-Pi project seems moribund – but of recent forks, this one seems best: GitHub - Nachtzuster/BirdNET-Pi: A realtime acoustic bird classification system for the Raspberry Pi 5, 4B 3B+ 0W2 and more. Built on the TFLite version of BirdNET.

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Hi, thanks for this compilation of links !

Could you please indeed make two corrections to the initial post :

  • birdnet-pi : the Nachzuster’s fork solves many issues : x64 support, lighter on resources with a server.py optimization (works on rpi5;4;3 but even Pi Zero-2W), with a recent emphasis on adding UI improvements & feature requests
  • there is also an HA addon for birdnet-pi in my repo here : hassio-addons/birdnet-pi at master · alexbelgium/hassio-addons (github.com). I actually mostly update the b-pi one as it is coded in bash/php/py which is much easier for me to customize

Thanks!

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Done and done.

Also was anyone going to point out I spelled it PirdNET in multiple places? :laughing:

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Is there a Dashboard for displaying data from my BirdNet-Pi or its birdweather page? Or do I have to borrow the code that in linked to in this thread?

The BirdNet-Pi is a different device than my Home Assistant server, because I don’t want to run my HA server outdoors. :7)

(Also: thank you, @alexbelgium – this is great!!)

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Thanks ! The original (oldest at least) integration with mqtt of BirdNET pi that I was made aware of by Loyd Bailey is : Show Bird Pi detections in Home Assistant | Phill Price and a discussion Home Assistant Sensor Display Possible Issue · Nachtzuster/BirdNET-Pi · Discussion #20 · GitHub

Ps : my rpi with HA is also in my house and the microphone around 25m away

EDIT : I’ve implemented MQTT push in the birdnet-pi addon ; it will publish detections to the ‘birdpi’ topic to avoid interference with the go addon (based on BirdNET to MQTT publishing for Home Assistant consumption (github.com))

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By the way, an interesting resource to add to the main post is how to use a rpi to convert a USB signal to rtsp to be used in Birdnet Pi/Go. This can be a critical factor in migrating Birdnet from a dedicated device to the HA addon. Here is a very detailed description (using mediamtx and ffmpeg) : RTSP + USB Audio - Simultaneous Sources? · mcguirepr89/BirdNET-Pi · Discussion #1006 · GitHub

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Thanks for putting this resource together @tom_l
I just installed the mcquire89 version yesterday on a spare RPi4. Having now read a little deeper, I see it might be wise to shift to a different product/fork - now is the time to do it before I go any further. I had got it down to the two in your list the Nachtzuster and the Birdlink-Go options when I found your post. Is there any feeling for which is the better way to go - I have no particular preference apart from that it does basically the same as what the original BirdNET-Pi does and there is some ongoing active support and development.

I’d be interested to hear other people’s experience of the two options.

I don’t intend to run as an add-on on my Home Assistant Box, but I think some integration would be nice.

Thanks very much again.

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Thanks for all the work on this project. I love it, and it’s one of my favorite parts of home assistant. Is there any chance of making a version of this that includes the battybirdnet-pi project?

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I’ll look at it ; but it would be great if the different projects converged on a single platform with different recognition database

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That’d be cool. Just hung a bat house last night with my boys, and they asked me if I can do what I do with the birds, but with the bats, lol. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

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I’ve pushed a first version of battybirdnet-pi. As it is built on the birdnet-pi infrastructure I am quite hopeful for it to work fast. For bugs and further communication, please use the repo here Issues · alexbelgium/hassio-addons (github.com) instead of this thread so we don’t highjack it too much :slight_smile:

By the way, battybirdnet-pi is only published for aarch64

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Anybody seeing instability with the addon? Seems to crash daily with:

Restarting audio capture
Restarting audio capture
Restarting audio capture
Restarting audio capture
Restarting audio capture
2024/08/27 04:00:56 Restarting FFmpeg.
2024/08/27 04:00:52 Error reading from ffmpeg: EOF
2024/08/27 04:01:07 [alert] 365#365: unknown process 379 exited on signal 9
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Getting Birdnet-Pi working lately has been a lot of fun and a good learning curve for me as a HASS novice.

I started out using the microphone on one of my security cameras by way of an RTSP feed, but the quality was poor and I got very few detections. I was thinking about buying something and then realised I could easily turn an old Android phone into an RTSP streamer. So, an old Galaxy S4 is outside listening for birds. It is a simple case of installing a “turn your phone into a wifi camera” app and then utilising the audio component of the stream for Birdnet-Pi.

Then I had some trouble getting a Home Assistant card to look the way I wanted it to, but I am now reasonably happy with it. Trouble is it’s the same bird 99% of the time; they are not called Noisy Miners for nothing.

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Plant some different plants. I get seed eaters and nectar drinking birds at different times of the year depending on what is flowering / seeding.

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Oh, I live next to a creek and bushland and we get a fair range of birds. The Noisy Miners are just the noisiest, so just as soon as something else is detected, it gets knocked off the “latest” perch by a Noisy Miner again. Then at certain times of day it’s Musk Lorikeets. But mostly it’s Noisy Miners.

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Noisy! Some of them get weird and tap on the windows with their beaks too, just to be even noisier.