Drayton Wiser Home Assistant Integration

andyblac · November 29, 2023, 7:21pm

you’ll have to create your own dashboard, the default one that come with HA is maintained by HA itself. The card your looking for as @pcaouolte says is

- type: horizontal-stack

or

- type: vertical-stack

smir · November 29, 2023, 7:25pm

Thank you so much. It was the first thing

DavidHT · November 29, 2023, 8:03pm

Thank you. I must be a bit dim as i can not see those options when creating a dashboard. I have a dashboard which I created called Wiser, this dashboard was automatically populated with cards so now looks the same as the Overview dashboard.

robertwigley · November 30, 2023, 12:00am

Then:

Or search for Vertical Stack, or Grid. Then choose which cards you want to add within those “arrangement” cards.

Avinunca · November 30, 2023, 11:33am

Hello,
I’m a noob and late to the party re - Wise. I have a HA5 (green) running Sonoff trv controllers. I also have Sonoff temp/humidity sensors. I’m looking for a neat way of interfacing to my system heat and hot water boiler to replace the ancient controller. I want to be able to leave something ‘normal’ when we sell our house rather than just using a box with a couple of zigbee connected relays. I’ve seen the Wiser kit and I’m wondering if I can use it mostly as a dumb interface. The advert says internet connection required https://www.screwfix.com/p/drayton-wiser-wireless-heating-hot-water-internet-enabled-2-channel-smart-thermostat-kit-anthracite/117ka
I only want HA to be connected to the outside world. HA would do the clever stuff probably using node red.
By the way the Sonoff TRV controllers appear to be excellent value for money. Nice build quality and easy to install. Bought them direct from Itead, China. Nice to use manually too. Twist the dial and the display illuminates showing temperature setting. I unwittingly bought a separate hub not realising the Zigbee dongle did the job.

ian1182 · November 30, 2023, 1:12pm

An internet connection is required for the initial setup but after that it can run completely locally in the home. One of the advantages of the Wiser system is that it has no dependency on the internet for general running and that also extends to control via HA or any other automation you may use.

Of course if you wish to take advantage of some of the facilities to control the heating remotely then an internet connection is required. Lack of internet will mean you won’t receive the occasional firmware updates pushed out by SE. Local wifi is required to manage the schedules/config/etc.

infmatter · November 30, 2023, 9:54pm

Hi all,

Loving this integration - thanks for all the hard work.

My setup is working, but I live in a draughty victorian house and have the problem where my TRV temperatures are way off.

I already have other HA connected thermometers in a lot of rooms, so I’m thinking about trying using HA to try to impersonate a Wiser Room thermostat over zigbee, to the Hub.

Anyone tried this? I can’t be the first person to have this idea, but google is not turning anything up.

Or are there blockers I’m not foreseeing, like encryption or something.

Any help/pointers appreciated!

Avinunca · December 1, 2023, 4:19pm

Thank you. I’m still unclear however which sytem does what if I hook up Wiser to HA.
My main reason for buying would be to replace my old Potterton timer/controller with something that would appeal to someone buying my house. Otherwise I would need to install a plain box to install a zigbee relay set for HA control and reinstall the old Potterton box when I sell up.
Looks like the wiser would need a ZA radio connection in HA. Am I correct in thinking my Sonoff dongle can only have MQTT OR ZA and not both. How are most HA users interfacing to their boilers?

ian1182 · December 1, 2023, 5:57pm

I would say it’s the other way around. The Wiser infrastructure is a closed environment comprising the hub, roomstats, iTRV’s smartplugs, etc which you can interface to via the official wiser app or using http calls. Those calls can originate from HA or any other mechanism that can make a suitable request. Whilst you may have your sonoff dongle, MQTT, etc they cannot participate in the Wiser system. What you can do is using your automation routines is trap responses from your sonoff and from that instruct the wiser system to do something.

DavidHT · December 1, 2023, 7:07pm

Thank you, all sorted now.

conorlap · December 2, 2023, 1:19pm

Hi all, does anyone know how to hide the below elements of the Schedule Card (on the specific schedule menu):

For example I’d like to have a view of just the time grid and the Schedule Actions buttons:

Thank you!

andyblac · December 2, 2023, 1:55pm

Does anyone here have Insights+, what does it give you?, I have Octopus Energy and their Home mini, so my electric and gas usage is directly imported into HA.

robertwigley · December 2, 2023, 2:32pm

I imagine card-mod would probably allow you to do this (although I am not sure how), but maybe this is a feature enhancement that @msp1974 could make configurable in a future version. I can see a use case for a sub-dashboard of all schedules already expanded with just options to modify, rather than reassign rooms. I would probably use this myself.

conorlap · December 2, 2023, 3:12pm

I figured out a “hacky” way to do this for now, unfortunately I couldn’t figure out card-mod!

I edited the wiser-schedule-card.js file, searched for ‘div.schedule-info’ and added ‘display: none;’

      div.schedule-info {
        margin: 3px 0;
        display: none;
      }

I did the same for ‘div.assignment-wrapper’ to hide Schedule Assignment.

      div.assignment-wrapper {
        display: none;
      }

fredu · December 3, 2023, 11:06am

The general comment on this seems to be no. Wiser is a closed system, and isn’t designed to ‘let other sensors in’.
I suspect however, you mean if its possible to hack a generic sensor somehow to clone a Wiser Temp Sensor. Good question… Cant imagine Wiser would be overjoyed though, but someone out there must have given it a go…

msp1974 · December 3, 2023, 1:17pm

No you cannot do this. The hub will only connect to its sensors on zigbee so you would have to try and mimick a roomstat device with a ESP32 zigbee module. And as you cannot change some of the ids on these, even that might not work.

There is however a recipe in our wiki which will use a HA temp sensor to boost/cut heating in that room as an automation. Far from perfect but it works.

Other option is get a roomstat as this will override temp sensor on trv and use that to manage room temps etc.

github.com

asantaga/wiserHomeAssistantPlatform/blob/0a9163eea2ccb8f73547dbade9388abe45445baa/recipes/manage_temps_v2.md

# Using External Temp Sensor to Manage Room Temp Accuracy V2

The basic premise of this automation is to monitor a series of external temperature sensors and boost wiser room heating to reach the correct temperature as set by the schedule, which is one of the failings of having the temp sensor in the iTRV as it is too close to the heat source to be truly accurate for a whole room and often shuts the heating off before the room is at the correct temp.

On updates from the external temp sensor, it will compare this to the scheduled temp of the Wiser climate device (aka room).  If the room is not already heating or boosted, it will boost the room by 1.5x (adjustable) the difference.  I have found this to give pretty good results but this may need tweaking for your own home.

It will also look if the current room temp is within 0.5C (adjustable) of the scheduled temp and cancel any boost if it is.

## There are 3 requirements for this automation to work:

1) You need at least version 3.0.20 of the Wiser integration for HA.  It uses the 'current scheduled temp' attribute that was new in this version.
2) You need at least v2022.4 of Home Assistant for the trigger variable functionality
3) That your temperature sensors are setup in HA Areas with the Wiser Climate device you wish to control in the same area.

## Changes in V2

### 1) Splitting Into 2 Automations
I originally tried to write this as a single automation (which worked fine) however I think it added quite a bit of overhead to HA as I could only trigger it on all state changes.  It was also very difficult to debug as each state change for any device triggered it and therefore traces contained triggers not for what I was interested in debugging.  As such, it is now split into 2 main parts.  
  - Part 1 (Fire Event When Room Monitoring Temp Sensors Change Reading) is the automation to monitor for temperature changes in the devices I am interested in and fire a customer event when a temperature change is registered.
  - Part 2 (Manage Wiser Heating From Ext Temp Sensor) is the automation, triggered by this custom event to find the Wiser Climate device in the same room as the temp sensor and boost/cancel boost where necessary.  It also logs key informaiton in the logbook so you can see when it has activated, what the schedule temp/sensor temp was, how much it boosted by etc and also when it cancelled a boost.

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johnBoy · December 5, 2023, 7:37pm

I assume people are now using the latest Wiser app version V6.6.0 Build 1463

On my Samsung Galaxy Tab, the schedules now slide across the screen when changing from day to day. Sometimes, mulitple times.
Is this a bug or does everyone experience this?

DavidHT · December 5, 2023, 10:37pm

The schedules do this for me to on both Android and IOS.

Toddstar · December 6, 2023, 9:35pm

Has 23.12 broken the wiser integration? Or is mine just being stubborn?

Was a good 5 mins to load wiser after HA rebooted (was saying ‘failed to load’ for those 5 mins) & now shows errors for every control imput e.g. trying to change target temp, switch from off to auto, etc. (But is actioning at least some of the requests)

Edit:
Showing this is log file

Response error trying to communicate with Wiser Hub WiserHeat03660E.local for url http://WiserHeat03660E.local:80/data/v2/domain/. Error is 400, message=Data after `Connection: close’, url=URL(‘http://wiserheat03660e.local:80/data/v2/domain/’)

johnBoy · December 6, 2023, 9:53pm

I just updated to 2023.12

The installation seemed to go ok.
On the thermostat card, the Mode and Preset buttons are missing, unless the ‘Show more Information’ (3 dots) is clicked on.

The + and - buttons change the Target temperature ok.
The actual temperature figures are far too small in relation to the target temperature.
Is that how it was previously?

I’m not sure if it was because the heating demand was not on for long enough, but there is/was no indication of Heating / Idle etc…
Thermostat